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Nov 10, 2006 22:20

*sigh*  Under the cut, ladies and gentlemen.

Helo lost me.  Am I bloodthirsty to say that what they were doing was semi-right?  I do say semi because it was going to weigh on their minds, as it should.  But their duty is to keep this fleet alive.  The Cylons whipped out billions of humans, and I'm not going to repeat everything Roslin said.  But it ( Read more... )

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beck_liz November 11 2006, 03:36:55 UTC
I thought that both Helo and Lee were right. That is to say, what I really wanted was for them to admit that they'd be committing genocide, and that it was wrong, but for the sake of all their survival, it had to be done. I love that he saved them from themselves. On the other hand, however, I kind of wish he hadn't, so they'd have to live with the consequences. I don't know. As you can see, I'm very much of two minds on this. But I still love Helo, because he's still maintained his ideals even though no one else has, and because of his giant heart.

And boy was Lee jumpy on that basestar.

inlovewithnight reminded me that he's frequently like that in high-stress combat situations. When the Cylons boarded Galactica during the first half of season 2, he got like that too. I love that they remembered that.

He really didn't have the right to bring up New Caprica.

No. In that, he very definitely stuck his foot in it, to say the least. He has no clue what happened, how awful it was. He had no right to go there.

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meganlynn09 November 11 2006, 03:43:47 UTC
Maybe I was too hard on him? I don't know. I know what you mean, and I didn't mention it. They should have admitted, that yes, they were committing genocide. I suppose it's because I've never been like a big fan of Helo (not that I never liked him, I just, he's not my favorite). I mean, it's nice that he sticks to what his heart tells him, but it's almost like they were portraying him as forgetting what the Cylons have put them through, and what they put him through (in S1).

When the Cylons boarded Galactica during the first half of season 2, he got like that too. I love that they remembered that.

I don't know who to thank for that character continuity, Jamie Bamber or the writers/directors. It's awesome.

In that, he very definitely stuck his foot in it, to say the least.

And you know, him saying that, I think that may have made Roslin's decision a little more firmer.

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beck_liz November 11 2006, 03:51:47 UTC
I mean, it's nice that he sticks to what his heart tells him, but it's almost like they were portraying him as forgetting what the Cylons have put them through, and what they put him through (in S1).

Well, yes, but there is some merit to the argument that to commit genocide would sink to their level and darken their souls (or whatever Helo says). I'm just not sure that's enough to risk the safety of every human left, is all. But I guess I'm less of an idealist and more of a pragmatist than Helo is.

And you know, him saying that, I think that may have made Roslin's decision a little more firmer.

You know, you've got a point. I think he just shoved her a little further along the decision making process.

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meganlynn09 November 11 2006, 03:57:21 UTC
Oh of course! It would greatly weigh on them the gravity of what they committed, but like you said, would that be enough not to get rid of the terrible, and constant, threat?

And you'd think after all they've been through, they're wouldn't be any idealists left. It's nice, in principal.

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meganlynn09 November 11 2006, 15:52:45 UTC
It's still genocide, but what are you going to choose? Saving the 40,000 survivors of your race, or try and take out the people trying to kill you and already wiped out billions of your people? It's not a hard choice, and yet it is.

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ar_feiniel_ November 11 2006, 08:13:36 UTC
I agreed with Helo's reasoning more than what the others were harping on....which sounded a little too much like revenge and middle school playground rules (ie - 'the Cylons started it').

I actually think the disease was a good strategic defense, because, let's face it: the Cylons could wipe out the remainder of the humans if they get a jump on the fleet. And I doubt the Cylons would have been all wiped out: if Doc Cottle could whip out a cure in a day, I think the Cylons could figure it out in time.

Though I wouldn't have staged a massive offesive attack - that's IMO on the more...harsh...side, and kinda stupid. I would have held onto the prisoners, and executed only one or two at a time if attacked. Wow, that sounds really mean. Ususally I'm not like this. ;)

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meganlynn09 November 11 2006, 15:55:45 UTC
Oh, I think when Helo brought up New Caprica, he lost me as much as he lost Roslin. But I get what he was saying, and I know it wouldn't exactly be all happy go lucky that they just wiped out the Cylons. But they're definitely in a be killed or kill situation. They won't exactly be able to live nicely on Earth together.

Although, I do agree with the thought of keeping one of the prisoners alive. Probably Simon since he seemed the most eager for a cure.

And that does sound harsh. I feel almost bloodthirsty saying all this!

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