random fanfic/fandom rant

[meganbmoore]

Actually been trying out some fanfic lately instead  of just reading summaries. Nothing really new here, but...

(pretty much all anime/manga because hey, it's my life lately, though a few other things get mentioned)

I like canon.  I'm not quite a canon nazi, but unless canon is flatout BAD(in which case, why bother with the fandom anyway?) I see

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[fivil]

But if A is paired with C, then by pairing A with B you really aren't writing about the same characters anymore because you're contradicting who and what they are.I think good fic explains or explores that canon pairing or canon romantic implication in some way even when writing a NON-canon pairing. Like it doesn't just make Harry gay without explaining why stuff doesn't work out with Ginny

[meganbmoore]

I know that any fic is going to deviate from canon, I'm referring to the ones that just ignore or deliberately change canon because they don't like something in it, or where it's obviously they're onlky in it for the hot guys and couldn't care about anything else.

I'm all for "adding" but most fanfic I encounter detracts from instead of adds to.

[southerndave]

Silver recommended to me one a while back that I quite enjoyed... It was sort of a re-telling of the first few episodes of "Rurouni Kenshin" but in a modern-day "World of Darkness" sort of setting. You want me to see if I can find the link?

But personally, as far as spotting possible liaisons between fictional characters goes... I'm wondering if I'm much more perceptive than the normal person or just much more warped than the normal person. (Probably the latter, knowing me). Because, while watching the first couple of seasons of the new "Doctor Who", it is so obvious that the Doctor would like nothing better than to materialise in Jackie Tyler's pants. Sure, they're still at the pulling-her-pigtails-at-lunchtime level of maturity... but the way the Doctor behaves around Rose makes much more sense when put in the context of "I'm showing you the wonders of the Universe because I want to marry your mother"...

[meganbmoore]

*amused* don't say that second paragraph around a few members of my flist.

[alexandral]

That said, most characters tend to be defined by their relationships, romantic or otherwise. In other words, if you want to pair A with B and neither is paired off in canon or indicated to have preferences elsewhere, fine. But if A is paired with C, then by pairing A with B you really aren't writing about the same characters anymore because you're contradicting who and what they are.

I dunno, quite often apart of the main ship there other sparkles flowing and if the show is not finished there is always a way. For example I totally understand if someone writes Murphy/TVMorgan. Or even Bob/Murphy..

My largest "NOOOOOOO" is the character hate fiction. I find hating someone/something to be such a depressing emotion!

[meganbmoore]

But see, usually, when someone decides to follow up on a non-canon ship and one part of the ship, it turns into a hate fic.

For example, while Harry is defined in part by his relationship with Murphy and his need to have her in his life, Murphy isn't really defined by her relationship with Harry. Therefore, yeah, it'd be a lot easier for me to buy Murphyxnot-Harry than Harryxnot-Murphy(outside of flings) but as Harry/Murphy is obviously canon, writers have to have a WHY for Murphyxnot-Harry for it to work, and thats when we enter into the possibility of hatefic and character bashing.

[chaos00tryza]

I was thinking about writing more fanfiction myself recently, I’ve had so many bad experiences with horrible, horrible fanfiction about Naruto featuring my OTP. I forced myself to read another bashing fanfic -just- so I could understand where all the hate comes from, and then I read another kind of “regular” one when it stumps out my OTP making another female look better, and blacklisting my otp as “dysfunctional”

*cracks knuckles* Let my typing frenzy begin!!

I see little point in fanfic that opposes [canon pairings]...seems to me that once you're writing AGAINST the story, you aren't even really writing about the characters or world anyway. I have no problems with stories that add to the canon, as long as they don't contradict canon.

Would that go for implied canon pairings too? I see Shikatema as a heavily implied canon pairing, despite fierce opposition from shikaino ships. I mean really, AsuKure was implied, and only recently that have been dubbed canon (the first in Naruto history). It irritates me that Kishimoto does not “

[meganbmoore]

Most of the best OTPs have a fair degree of dysfunctionality to them...it's what keeps them interesting.

Most pairings are implied for a long time instead of outright, and if it comes to an implied pairing vs something never remotely hinted at in canon(and, frankly, on the subject of your thing--WHY??? Ino is little more than a second rate-Sakura who isn't remotely as smart or tough as the original and her sole purpose in canon has been to help kick Sakura and Shika's butts into gear. And, like ShikaTema and unlike ShikaIno, ChoIno was actually somewhat hinted at a few times)

Part of it with Naruto is that irt draws in younger fans, which usually also means a lower maturity level.

[chaos00tryza]

I wasn't clear was I? The fanfic that I read made sure to show that my OTP's relationship was dysfunctional, and therefore, was not worth keeping intact (from the male's POV).

Um... O.o what is the subject of "my thing" [in relation to Ino??] that you're telling me about? *is confused*

[meganbmoore]

Ah. Meant never understood why Ino is so popular, or why people would pair her with Shika, for the above reasons.

[dangermousie]

I agree with everything (btw, want me to link you to an awesome Kougaiji fic?)

'Misunderstood' fics drive me up the bend. So do parental figure-child figure ones (which is why Sanzo/Guku makes me ill. I don't mind slash but Sanzo is like Goku's father!)

I have actually enjoyed utterly AU fics now and then (Kenshin is a former mob assassin! one was quite fun and had all the canonical ships :D) but then I just don't view them as canon at all but some random fun story that is well written.

As to Hakkai/Gojyo? Not my thing but whatever (though I think Hakkai is too messed up to be in any kind of relationship with anything but a slice of toast) but then there is one fic when his gf comes back, not dead after all, and is pregnant and he choses Gojyo over her and I went WTFWTFWTF.

[meganbmoore]

Does said fic involve Yaone