I agree with all of everypen who commented and teh nice perosn who posted.
*Sniff cry* I am so depressed, yes he is a movie character but omg it felt liek my heart and been ripped out. Ahg!!yes but James dying and not coming back to life where everyone else is!! thats just bullshit!! If any one wants to join me in a hunting party for the writer's who killed James off. Please dont hesitate to email me!!
*Runs off and cries with the other fan girls who lost James*
I caught the movie again the other day and discovered the Governor’s not so memorable line. Thank goodness they hired Jonathan Pryce and Jack Davenport for that scene, is all I can say. With the characters in the hands of lesser actors and they might have had to give them actual lines and screen time to illustrate their unease. *sigh*
Yeah, I’m really confused about the sword, the fact it was a symbol of Norrington’s honour worked really worked through the movies up to an including the scene where he got it back. But then is all went to hell after that point. If anyone should have been killed by Norrington’s sword, it should have been James himself. Then it would be was his own honour, his defining trait, corrupted for evil purposes by Beckett and used to destroy him, a much more effective symbol which would really illustrate how very evil the East India Trading Company is.
I’m just going to go with that when the dropped the ball on the sword when they dropped the ball on James.
*sniff* James. God, he was a good person. The Fangirl in me always had a plot bunny in mind that James taught swordsmanship to Will at a young age in Port Royal (young Will saw him take down a couple rogue pirates in the harbour one afternoon and begged for a sword lesson). If you incorporate that, James could have been a father figure, only to have Will's real father do him in like that... at least it wasn't James' own sword that stabbed him like I originally recollected. That would have been truly awful.
And would it have been too much trouble to have James standing there as a first mate by Capn Will when the Dutchman came back to kick the Endeavour? I think it would have been lovely, but too insipid for James. Our James was a fighter and a bloody Admiral, forget the whole first mate thing. He needs a ship of his own.
This turned into a rather longer comment than I intended. Hope you don't mind!
I actually think James’ sword stabbing him would have been a better end; it would have much more symbolic significance then a piece of wood - his own honour being used against him to destroy him.
And I’m with you on the giving Will sword fighting pointers (and I think he gave Elizabeth sailing lessons) Will’s got to have learnt it from somewhere, and if you keep that in mind it makes the rivalry between them over Elizabeth just that little bit more tragic.
He does need a ship of his own. Too bad they never brought the Dauntless back.
I loved this! It was so good, and I totally agree with you on like... everything. I'm so PISSED that they killed Norri, and in such a STUPID way too! Couldn't they at least give him a cool death? I mean, yeah he got the kiss... but he deserved that in the first movie (and I nearly screamed aloud when they kissed 'cause it was awesome). I mean, bloody MERCER got a better (cooler) death than him? WTFH? Jack got a cool death in the last movie, Beckett got an awesome (and probably rediculously expensive to make) death, Barbossa's death in the first movie was pretty cool, and even the people who got hanged in the first few scenes got a cooler death than James. It's so dumb! It's like they were like "um... hmm... Norrington? Yeah... we're going to give you a cheap crappy death. But, on the bright side, you get an awesome 'fuck you' to Davy Jones." And that's pretty much what it was, it was cheap, not really any effects, just a peice of wood. Was there even any blood though?
No way would I wish Mercer’s death on him. Way too gross. It only worked for him because he was truly despicable character and he really deserved it. He did completely deserve to go out in a blaze brilliant of glory though and doing something completely kick arse, like taking the Kraken out with him. Death by stick is not cool.
I just got back from watching the movie again. This second viewing, I attempted to count lines and scenes. Four scenes, but I lost count of the lines because I was pretty much hanging on to every word, trying to squeeze just a little more meaning from them all. Sigh. Well, at least he's a good enough actor that each line equated to about five.
You're absolutely right about writing Norrington into a corner--with the focus so totally on his love for Elizabeth and redemption(which, in my opinion, is hardly necessary since he seems to be the most morally erect and backstab-less character in the movies, 'cept maybe for Barbossa and Elizabeth. Why couldn't those three have been the ones walking out to meet Beckett, Jones, and Will on the sandbar?) there was really very little they could do with him but kill him. And his contrition for his sins pretty much excludes fun snarkiness.
Currently, I'm in the search for some quality resurrection fics. Any suggestions?
Hmm. Jack Davenport turns the simple phrases “you summoned me” and “hold steady men” into things of beauty (well, he has too, that’s the only thing he gets to say before he bumps into Elizabeth.)
I wish I could help you out on the fic front but I’ve been too busy writing my own AU fic to really do much reading.
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*Sniff cry* I am so depressed, yes he is a movie character but omg it felt liek my heart and been ripped out. Ahg!!yes but James dying and not coming back to life where everyone else is!! thats just bullshit!! If any one wants to join me in a hunting party for the writer's who killed James off. Please dont hesitate to email me!!
*Runs off and cries with the other fan girls who lost James*
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Yeah, I’m really confused about the sword, the fact it was a symbol of Norrington’s honour worked really worked through the movies up to an including the scene where he got it back. But then is all went to hell after that point. If anyone should have been killed by Norrington’s sword, it should have been James himself. Then it would be was his own honour, his defining trait, corrupted for evil purposes by Beckett and used to destroy him, a much more effective symbol which would really illustrate how very evil the East India Trading Company is.
I’m just going to go with that when the dropped the ball on the sword when they dropped the ball on James.
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I didn't get the game of Pass the Phallus, either.
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*sniff* James. God, he was a good person. The Fangirl in me always had a plot bunny in mind that James taught swordsmanship to Will at a young age in Port Royal (young Will saw him take down a couple rogue pirates in the harbour one afternoon and begged for a sword lesson). If you incorporate that, James could have been a father figure, only to have Will's real father do him in like that... at least it wasn't James' own sword that stabbed him like I originally recollected. That would have been truly awful.
And would it have been too much trouble to have James standing there as a first mate by Capn Will when the Dutchman came back to kick the Endeavour? I think it would have been lovely, but too insipid for James. Our James was a fighter and a bloody Admiral, forget the whole first mate thing. He needs a ship of his own.
This turned into a rather longer comment than I intended. Hope you don't mind!
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And I’m with you on the giving Will sword fighting pointers (and I think he gave Elizabeth sailing lessons) Will’s got to have learnt it from somewhere, and if you keep that in mind it makes the rivalry between them over Elizabeth just that little bit more tragic.
He does need a ship of his own. Too bad they never brought the Dauntless back.
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You're absolutely right about writing Norrington into a corner--with the focus so totally on his love for Elizabeth and redemption(which, in my opinion, is hardly necessary since he seems to be the most morally erect and backstab-less character in the movies, 'cept maybe for Barbossa and Elizabeth. Why couldn't those three have been the ones walking out to meet Beckett, Jones, and Will on the sandbar?) there was really very little they could do with him but kill him. And his contrition for his sins pretty much excludes fun snarkiness.
Currently, I'm in the search for some quality resurrection fics. Any suggestions?
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I wish I could help you out on the fic front but I’ve been too busy writing my own AU fic to really do much reading.
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