K-D is down, during which I find an essay by Mary Borsellino....

[mechtild]

It looks like K-D is down. I checked the alternate "Frodo's Harem on LJ" site, but didn't see any new entries…. My apologies to you who have PM'd me, since I can't open them. Link to Harem LJ site, in case you have lost it

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[ms_banazira]

I noticed that KD is down too. Every time it happens I worry that it, and all the good times we've had there and hoped to have, are gone forever. I hope Moggy just forgot to pay the bill again!

I read Ms. Borsellino's essay some time ago, and look forward to reading it again.

But I prefer my Frodo, erm, un-touched. ;-) There was a time when I'd read slash, but I just can't go there anymore; it twists two characters I love too much. I prefer to think of my Frodo as somewhat 'elvish,' which in my book means spiritual, and above the ordinary fleshly concerns of ordinary hobbits.

I've read, and would recommend "Following the Other Wizard" by JoDancingTree, and one by Sally Gardens which I can't recall the name of. Both are set after the quest and depict Frodo, Sam and Rosie in the domestic setting to some extent. (But there's no sex in either story. Just a personal preference of mine. I'm not afraid of sex; I just know how it's done, and prefer to be a first-hand participant I guess!) ;-)

[ms_banazira]

OK, how do you do that eeny-weeney little text trick?? I hate HTML markup!

[elasg]

and one by Sally Gardens which I can't recall the name of.

That's 'The Road Ahead' and I can VERY highly recommend it. I have it listed on my recommendations page because I adore it too. It's one of those stories that I hope will ever be somewhere on the internet or on my shelf. I love it that much

[mariole]

I read PGY ages ago and dabbed tissues all through it. Some of these little vignettes are very moving. I think you'll enjoy it. I also think you'll enjoy the unnamed fic you mention. It's got a terrific story and great Rosie, although it is certainly overall F/S. Cheers!

[lame_pegasus]

*smiles*

Of course I know that excellent essay (and though I don't wholly agree with everything said in it), I totally love her way to see Rosie who is painfully often reduced to a mere, cheap (and not really appreciated) substitute for a lost Frodo, Sam's only "twu wuv". And Pretty Good Year was my very first threesome and my nearly first slash, and though I had great difficulties witth both, Mary's way of telling this wonderful tale captured me totally... it made me smile, laugh, weep, grin... and adore her insight and wisdom

[mechtild]

Honey, I know you dislike Frodo being dragged off into love affairs in stories and you aren't alone. Tolkien wrote him as a bachelor, a seemingly contented bachelor. It certainly seems the right thing to leave well enough alone. Obviously, though, I haven't done that. P.S. To make small text use this code:

White Gull, I don't think Rose is a goddess, either, but perhaps I misread Ms. Borsellino in her essay. I thought she was speaking of what she thought were the archetypes or mythic underpinnings of the Rosie and other female characters in LotR. I thought her ideas were extrememly interesting, but I always enjoy literary criticism that looks at the archetypes and mythic themes that run beneath a work. The S/F, S/R story was yours, yes. I didn't name it because a) I haven't read it so don't feel qualified to bandy its name around and b) because I might have misunderstood the scenario. Would it be true that Sam never knows that Rosie and Frodo are having an affair while all three are living together at Bag End? Or does Sam find out

[lame_pegasus]

Yes, I translated it (which was quite a challenge at that time, or my english was not so good as it is today). And it still contains some of the best fanfiction scenes I ever read. The chapter Dirty Waters is so painful and moving (and the most bitter essence of post-quest-Frodo I ever read) that I will always adore it, and Perfectly well (some chapters later) contains some of the most spooky and frightening moments I've ever read.

[mechtild]

Anyway, if you ever do read it, let me know what you think, good or ill.

But, of course! Your description of the arc of the story shows a vast reach. I knew you had used Autumn's Requiem as a springboard. How you are going to make Sam "ok" with this without making him seem a sap, only too happy to be a cuckold if it make Master happy, I will be happy to see. It all sounds like a more sophisticated tale than is usual, which have fewer complications, typically. It might be the nature of a long-running threesome to bring out the capacity of characters to make make the best of things, things that get messy, which happens a lot in real life.

[ellinestel]

((((Mechtild))) I love both the PGY and the unnamed fic. But before you start reading, - please, go and buy a hundred boxes of tissues, no less. These two threesomes are very different from each other, in a way, but they are absolutely heartwrenching. I can't say which Rosie is my favourite - they both reach out to the reader.

I think I need to reread PGY. The last line of the main series of vignette kills me every time.

Oh, yes, and I'm back online! :)

[mechtild]

Ellin, hi! My, you have been busy. You have barely posted at all (on your LJ, where you periodically announce you still are alive, or in the Harem, which is vacationing *smile*). But you sound well, just busy.

When you mention the "unnamed fic" do you mean the one in which Frodo gets Rosie with child in order to give a baby to Sam, or the one in which Rosie is married to Sam but having an affair with Frodo? I've heard they all are tear-jerkers.

[ellinestel]

I meant the first one/ :) As to the second, I'm afraid I've missed it, I'll have to check that i've read it.

I am busy, but I'll try to come back as soon as I'm able. ((((((((((Hugs)))))))))))

[mechtild]

I'm glad to hear that, Ellin Estel. The second fic is White Gull's, Autumn's Gift. The first one, if I have got the story correct, is Elenya's All That I Had. That's just to make sure we know what the "unnamed fics" were. I hadn't wanted to name them because I would be talking about, and maybe making presumptions about fics I had not read.