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[matrixmann]

One thing everyone needs to be ready for: If you tear down the current system, it means your current state of wealth is going to vanish too. The gadgets, the electronic devices, the oversupply that you use - is tied to the current economic and political system. If you make it go away, these things only keep existing as a remembrance of different

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[gansje]

Absolutely. Yet this presents a huge problem; one of the things that helps keep a political structure in place and get its citizens' support is to improve and maintain the citizens' perceived sense of well-being (not their actual well-being, just their sense of well-being). Consumerism's current hold means perceived sense of well-being is measured with consumption-centered metrics. Thus any revolutionary measures to change systems produce dissatisfaction and may, without totalitarianism, collapse. Evolutionary change works more effectively in terms of civil acceptance, but obviously is too slow and unpredictable a process.

[matrixmann]

Precisely what I'm thinking about for the current system

[red_child]

Destroy the system, but only after you've designed, then formed, a replacement one that fulfills all of your intentions. Once the current system is down put yours in place as deeply and strongly as possible; you'll probably need some powerful military techniques and some good, honest propaganda that ensures people good is at hand in a way that's comforting to their inadequate manners of interpreting things. Wherever your system doesn't provide, pick up the destroyed system's available tactics. Use them, but tactically apply change, keeping your resource expenditures measured and cleverly employed, but keep changing the tactics until they match your intentions, just like the system you built as a replacement for once the destroyed one was down, and eventually end up with a system you want

[matrixmann]

I sort of regard it the same way