Twittering the new Doctor and Demons

Jan 04, 2009 01:03

The thoughts that crossed my mind as the events happened.

doctor who, philip glenister, tw:09a, demons, matt smith

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karohemd January 4 2009, 02:22:01 UTC
Another example of writers running out of original ideas so they rehash existing stuff badly and try to put it in a modern context. Switch your brain off, and it's not too bad, a bit like Merlin.

In the demon pub/bar scene (where we see ugly henchman and his "furball"), did you notice someone familiar from the London alternative club scene? I don't know his name but he quite often wears a green pirate/frock coat and has a big beard and piercings?

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matgb January 4 2009, 16:08:48 UTC
Didn't really notice background characters, no. And also forgot to set up to record, I'm so used to watch again services I forgot it was on ITV.

It's fun, and I have nothing wrong per se with derivative works (Shakespeare, for example), but if you're going to just take ideas from elsewhere, you need to be really really good.

Not sure this counts.

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karohemd January 4 2009, 19:17:19 UTC
It's repeated on ITV2 at 8 and it's on the ITV player, too.

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getawaywithit January 4 2009, 11:05:13 UTC
Just on the message at the end, consider the use of 'the stacks' - in Buffy, the library was a place that contained knowledge and information that had to be researched, learned and discovered. In Demons, it's just a cover for an armoury with information about the bad guys just appearing out of Zoe Tapper or Philip Glenister's head when the plot needs to be pushed along.

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matgb January 4 2009, 16:09:53 UTC
In the first episode, yes, but it's a pilot/setup story, so we'll see, maybe they'll develop a more research themed approach in the future.

Using the blind librarian.

Um, yeah.

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rhythmaning January 4 2009, 11:43:50 UTC
See - you watch crappy tv so I don't have to! I was wondering about Demons - but it sounded so much of a rip off of Buffy, and I couldn't quite see Gene Hunt as a librarian myself!

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matgb January 4 2009, 16:11:38 UTC
Gene's not the librarian, he's the action type former backup guy to Daddy Van Helsing.

The librarian is a descendent of Jonathan Harker. She's drop dead gorgeous. And very very blind.

Which is an interesting choice for a custodian of books.

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paulgregory January 7 2009, 02:22:14 UTC
I don't believe they actually say descendant, although the dialogue is clever. Illustrious family, yes. Jonathan was the first librarian, yes. Mina is as young as she appears? Doesn't necessarily follow; everything makes more sense if she is immortal.

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hazeljnutt January 4 2009, 12:54:28 UTC
pleh, demons.

Gene Genie sounds weird.

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js84 January 4 2009, 23:22:29 UTC
Without really having seen an episode of Buffy, Angel or Charmed etc. and not knowing what it might be ripping off, I still think it wasn't very strong. They should have concentrated more on Luke's normal life and have him deal with one of the villains on his own before Rupert and Mena turn up. Instead, he believed Rupert almost in an instant and was practically spoon-fed instructions.

The fox demons (short hoodies with animal masks) reminded me of the crack fox character from the Mighty Boosh. The three hockey-playing teenagers from Dogma were more terrifying by comparison.

I'll try and stick with it and see if it develops. One thing I don't like is the way every British drama has to resolve its story at the end of each episode (with the exception of rare two-part specials), but I guess their way of thinking is that they'd loose ratings if it was something you had to watch every episode of to understand the evolving story.

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