Clearly, I can only speak of the ones I saw as I would have no idea how many women on the ship actually WERE pregnant.
The line I draw is a bit fuzzy, but would have to run somewhere where medical intervention MAY help improve pregnancy outcome should shit go wrong (but it runs much earlier than the start of the third trimester). For example, muscle relaxants help stop pre-term contractions in a lot of women. Being in a driving distance of a major hospital means you are likely to receive such intervention. Being out in the middle of the ocean means you are likely shit out of luck.
There are also sudden-onset conditions that threaten mother's life as well as the baby's. Two examples are placenta previa (which is commonly only diagnosed upon the first bleeding incident) and preeclampsia or HELLP syndrome. In the latter case even airlifting the woman off the ship would be risky. Both of these can and do often occur before the start of the third trimester.
Well, many-many emergencies can happen even for non-pregnant men and women. Certainly, pregnancy is a condition when the the chance of an emergency is more likely than in otherwise healthy women. But there are other conditions that have inherently elevated health risks.
Hey, at least when you are on a cruise ship, you are not driving, so the main "everyday" risk of death/trauma/pregancy complication is removed.
In short, I would hesitate to call someone "an idiot" just because they chose some pleasant activity with higher a risk to their health, unless the risk is enormous.
You missed my pointmatb37April 11 2007, 20:57:22 UTC
...which was that I would guess that it's not that these women carefully considered the risk to themselves and their fetuses and decided to get on the ship anyway, but rather that they never considered those risks. Hence, "непуганные." "Непуганные идиоты" is an idiom, which doesn't so much impugn someone's intelligence as their happy-go-lucky, nothing-bad-can-happen-to-me attitude.
You would expect people with other conditions that have inherently elevated health risks to consider those before deciding whether one mode of vacationing is better suited to their health needs than others. My point is that it is unlikely that most pregnant women that get on these ships do similar sort of analysis beforehand.
Much better than I expected, actually. It turns out to be a decent vacation option. Of interest to young (and not so young) parents, they provide decent childcare options, allowing you to spend some quality time with your spouse. Food was also very good, as was the service. I would say that it is essential to get a cabin with a balcony, since the rooms are pretty small. I also liked sleeping with the balcony door open-- I love the sounds and the smells of the sea. Not to mention some kick ass sunrise and sunset views we got from our balcony. The views of the night sky are also impressive, although disorienting-- I couldn't find any of the constellations and the moon's crescent was on the bottom of what would be the full moon instead of on the side. We got to watch some shooting stars from our balcony. I don't think I ever saw 4 in the same night before.
Carn*val Mir*cle. We went to the Western Caribbean from Tampa. This was actually one of the last trips this ship made from Tampa. They should be moving to NY any day now.
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The line I draw is a bit fuzzy, but would have to run somewhere where medical intervention MAY help improve pregnancy outcome should shit go wrong (but it runs much earlier than the start of the third trimester). For example, muscle relaxants help stop pre-term contractions in a lot of women. Being in a driving distance of a major hospital means you are likely to receive such intervention. Being out in the middle of the ocean means you are likely shit out of luck.
There are also sudden-onset conditions that threaten mother's life as well as the baby's. Two examples are placenta previa (which is commonly only diagnosed upon the first bleeding incident) and preeclampsia or HELLP syndrome. In the latter case even airlifting the woman off the ship would be risky. Both of these can and do often occur before the start of the third trimester.
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Hey, at least when you are on a cruise ship, you are not driving, so the main "everyday" risk of death/trauma/pregancy complication is removed.
In short, I would hesitate to call someone "an idiot" just because they chose some pleasant activity with higher a risk to their health, unless the risk is enormous.
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You would expect people with other conditions that have inherently elevated health risks to consider those before deciding whether one mode of vacationing is better suited to their health needs than others. My point is that it is unlikely that most pregnant women that get on these ships do similar sort of analysis beforehand.
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Food was also very good, as was the service. I would say that it is essential to get a cabin with a balcony, since the rooms are pretty small. I also liked sleeping with the balcony door open-- I love the sounds and the smells of the sea. Not to mention some kick ass sunrise and sunset views we got from our balcony. The views of the night sky are also impressive, although disorienting-- I couldn't find any of the constellations and the moon's crescent was on the bottom of what would be the full moon instead of on the side. We got to watch some shooting stars from our balcony. I don't think I ever saw 4 in the same night before.
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Which ship? Where did you go?
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