Comments | mastersantiago: P&T: Bullshit

mastersantiago

P&T: Bullshit - The Vatican

Aug 31, 2009 18:01

http://watchtvshowsonlinefree.info/penn-teller-bullshit-s07e10

Seems pretty accurate to everything I know about the Catholic Church at this point. I am curious to know what my friends who are Catholic think about P&T's treatment of this particular topic.

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fionnbharro September 1 2009, 01:59:40 UTC

Speaking as your (probably) lone Catholic friend....

Is there another place to see the video?

The site you've linked to has a 'Take a quiz and submit your contact info!' popup that won't let you view the video until/unless you do the quiz.

And even after supplying it with fake information, I can't view it online because it relies on Windows code stuff, and I'm using Fedora/Linux. The download *might* work, but Firefox has a popup saying an ad on the page links to a 'malicious' site.... And by the time I can actually download the file, it asks me to wait because I haven't paid to become a premium member of the file-storage website it's hosted on.

Talk about jumping through hoops.... Sheesh!

What's the gist of P&T's show?

mastersantiago September 1 2009, 02:54:56 UTC

Actually you aren't my only Catholic friend, but you probably are the one with the most knowledge about Catholicism.

I didn't get any of that stuff trying to watch the video though, so I'm not sure why you are. Unfortunately that seems to be the only spot at the moment.

The general take is more an overview of recent history of the Catholic Church with a particular emphasis on Ratzinger and his part in 'cover up' orders regarding priests and underage children as well as positional statements about things like gay marriage, condom use and AIDS.

fionnbharro September 1 2009, 15:31:51 UTC

There's no popup or anything this morning, so I'm downloading the video now.

I'll watch when I can (it's half an hour or so?), and comment afterwards.

fionnbharro September 2 2009, 16:33:38 UTC

My comment is too big!

I posted it in a 'limited distro' post in my own LJ

:-)

cpxbrex September 1 2009, 07:50:20 UTC

I'm not Catholic, but I was, so I'm definitely gonna chime in, hehe.

That cyclical, about how to deal with priests and sexual abuse, is something I've read. The story was broke, I believe, by the Guardian UK and it says precisely what Bullshit says it says - that the victims of sexual abuse by priests are sworn to secrecy on pains of excommunication. And affirmation of that written by Cardinal Ratzinger - now Pope Benedict XVI - is also real. The Pope, himself, said that you can't talk about sex abuse cases until after the victim is well into adulthood on pain of excommunication. That's all just fact.

There is absolutely no reason to believe that the Vatican has swayed one inch from this position. Right now, in Ireland, there is this huge row over a Catholic organization that raised orphans and committed . . . I mean, just atrocities. These kids were basically slaves, including sex slaves, of the people who ran these organizations, both boys and girls. The victims run into the tens of thousands. The Catholic Church is ( ... )