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geah August 7 2006, 08:56:45 UTC
How about a map of suicide bombers?

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malbec August 7 2006, 10:10:14 UTC
Sadly I don't have that. Maybe there's not been as many of them as there has been Israeli bombs so the map would be a lot less colourful?

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anonymous August 7 2006, 17:45:23 UTC
If you call this a 'fact sheet', you should have your figures right: two kidnapped soldiers, six killed. But that was only to start with.
On august 5 the Israeli casualty number was also much higher.
Nevertheless: every war is a tragedy, for both sides. I must stop.

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anonymous August 7 2006, 17:59:12 UTC
Er...
It's not so much about a kidnapped soldier (actually it was 2, by the way) as much as the massed missiles on the border, 2000 of which have been fired into populated areas with the express intention of killing civilians. You could map them if you want but apparently they're not so important because only governments do bad things.

I like the way Israel is marked as "Occupied Palestine" too. Nice.

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malbec August 7 2006, 18:15:34 UTC
I think it'd be very good to map those ones too. I suspect that it'd still show the response by Israel to be disproportionate though. So it might not be all that much of a good PR exercise on their behalf.

"apparently they're not so important because only governments do bad things."

Not at all. Both sides of the story are as important as the other and it's not true to say that governments to bad things. Sadly in this case though it does appear that this government is doing bad things. It would seem that the things that it is doing is worse than that of the Palestinian terrorists.

Both sides are endangering civillian lives. One is killing and maiming more.

And then there's those UN observers as well...

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anonymous August 7 2006, 18:33:08 UTC
As an aside, what is this disproportionate business anyway? It seems to have been invented just for this conflict. Aren't wars one by one side being disproportianately stronger than the other? Are the rules these days that you have to wait until the other side catches up?

Besides from that, it just isn't true. A third of Israel is living in bomb shelters or has evacuated and life in the north has come to a stand still. The only difference is that the 2000 Hezbollah missiles have failed to do what they were intended to do. I apologize for that. Plus we don't lie about casualites as much.

As for the UN...
a) why were they still there? They were unarmed observers to oversee ceasefire violations. It was irresponsible to leave them there in a war zone.
b) they admitted that hezbollah had been using the base as cover
c) last week, a UN building was ransacked in Gaza by gunmen and it wasn't worth reporting.

Let's be clear. People being killed is bad. But thinking Israel is causing all this is just dumb.

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anonymous August 8 2006, 06:53:12 UTC
Blaiming Israel for occupying territory is dumb too right? According to international law, those kidnapped soldiers are just POW's if you ask me. What the Israeli's did to the Palestinian parlement members, now thats kidnapping.

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