SFF: Alice Through the Looking Glass

[lyssie]

Non-spoilery thought: if you are looking for a movie with a female lead, multiple women having conversations and multiple complicated female-female relationships, women having agency and making their own choices? Yeah, this is the move fandom keeps screaming for

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[angelfireeast]

Good to hear something nice about this movie. All I've heard is bad things.

I thought Alice marrying Hatter and having ten babies was just the ending to ever fanfic ever written about the movie pairing.

It must have been sad to hear Alan Rickan's voice one last time. I know it was a shock to hear it in the ads for this movie. I forgot this was one of his last films.

[lyssie]

I really find it fascinating that people are hearing bad things (my roommate was warned away from it by a co-worker). And, like, I can totally get it. It's not the deepest movie ever, but it is an action movie, I don't really expect massive depth from one.

And to be fair, I did go in not really expecting much, so it didn't have to raise the bar high.

But it did, and I pretty much walked out mumbling, 'How badass was that."

I sort of think part of the "it is bad" might be that a lot of people were expecting it to deliver the Alice/Hatter otp with babies and true love. Which, I will give them, the first movie sort of hinted at? But this one, from the start of their opening scene, was a much more platonic interpretation. It probably doesn't help that Depp is twenty+ years older than Mia Wasikowska.

As for Rickman, it wasn't weird, actually, as I'd totally blanked on him being dead until the dedication over the credits, and then I was sad.

[_profiterole_]

I really liked that she was a captain. ^__^ And that it was a feminist movie. I'll just add that it would have been nice, with all the talk about China, to actually see Chinese actors/actresses in the movie.

[lyssie]

I squealed like a small child when the "captain" turned out to be her (and then I clapped my hand over my mouth since I seated next to a nice family who probably did not need their ears destroyed).

It would have been nice, yes. I sort of worry that they would have done a painful "exotic maid/manservant" trope, though. I do think they could have done something with the empress that she mentioned, though. And I did get the sense (and I was probably reading into it) that Alice didn't view China and its people as "strange savages" but more "people who are a business opportunity."

(maybe if they make a third movie, they can set it in China with some sort of Quest)

[tamsinwillougby]

I'm sorry to hear that it got poor box office reception. I enjoyed the movie, it had lots of fun bits, Alice was great and I loved the closer look at Mirana's and Iracibeth's relationship.

[lyssie]

I was reading something that said it wasn't making anywhere near what the first movie did.

Well, and also basing it off the fact that there is only one theatre in driving distance still showing it in Milwaukee (it's not even been out a month, but Captain America, which has been out since April, and X-Men, which came out the same week? Yeah, they're still showing all over) - so I may be a bit bitter about that.

Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed it, and I feel they could do an entire movie about the Queens' backstories and sibling rivalry, but what they showed was pretty interesting.

[havocthecat]

It's so nice to hear a positive review for once. From someone I trust!

[lyssie]

It completely baffles me that people aren't positively reviewing it.

The only way it makes sense is that the story people wanted was the Star-Crossed True Love of Alice and Hatter, and since that's what it's not, everyone hates it.