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Feb 03, 2009 17:20

OKAY. SO. The other day I was in the kitchen, and for some unimportant reason la famille started having a conversation about Twilight, which led, of course, to my Grand Unifying Rant about Why I Hate Twilight (TM). ...I think everyone on my flist is well aware of the issues with Twilight, but basically my final comment was, "...and I'm really not ( Read more... )

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revengeofthezio February 3 2009, 22:42:47 UTC
I think alot of pairings could be good if you properly explain everything in a natural way. But of course, the IDEA of a pairing can be good, but it can be horrenously executed.

One example would be Hiruma/Mamori from Eyeshield 21. On paper, the pairing seemed interesting but so many people write it as unbelieveable that it turned me off.

I never really look for pairings and such, prefering to take what canon gives me but the ones I like are: Phoenix/Iris, Jake/Lana, Gumshoe/Maggey, Daryan/Franziska, Marco/Maria (Eyeshield 21), Kotaro/Juri (Eyeshield 21 again) and....that's actually it.

I have too many least favorites pairings to count. Most of them from the PW/AJ fandom (I BLAME THE KINK MEME.)

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lyricalecho February 4 2009, 00:44:54 UTC
Yeah, I know what you mean. :|a A lot of pairings have an explanation-- most of the problems stem from how they're written. And there have been a lot of pairings that I have learned to hate simply because of what the fandom does with them.

KINKMEEEEEEEEME >( *shakes fist at heavens, etc.*

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spinners_grove February 3 2009, 23:36:36 UTC
I think I like more fluffy ships than you do, but it has to be cute fluffy and not, "OMG I'M GOING TO DIE WITHOUT YOU" sort of creepy fluffy. Also about Twilight? Edward is clingy and stalker-ish, and then he pushes Bella away- it's sort of abusive. On the other end, she has an unhealthy obsession with him, to the point where she wants to die for him and... She's giving off a little Lynette vibe, a la Assassins.

Ah. Here's one thing: Why do I like Giley? Because I love Giles and I like seeing him in lurrrrrrrve~ I guess that's why I like some pairings- I like seeing my favorite characters happy. I love Remus. Was Remus happy with Tonks? Not too much. Hence, I don't really support the ship.

And I like this new layout. =DDDDD

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ceiling_smiley February 3 2009, 23:52:41 UTC
IT'S ASH! :D

Also, tomorrow, you two, are we setting up the homeroom traveling circus thing? Cause we probably ought to :)

Imma stop spamming ya'll now *zooms away on the lollerskates*

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lyricalecho February 4 2009, 00:48:50 UTC
YEAH AND LYNETTE IS TOTALLY NORMAL RITE? :DD
The thing is, I could probably manage with that if SMeyer actually said "THIS IS BAD," but it's painted as ~*teh beautiful twoo wuvs 4evers*~ and it really makes you wonder just what her idea of a healthy relationship is.

That's true too, about Giley-- but see, I'm not sure if I would like it as much if I didn't like Jenny or if Jenny didn't at least interest me. But she does. So it's good. <3

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ceiling_smiley February 3 2009, 23:48:55 UTC
OMG. IT'S LIKE YOUR IN MAH BRAIN!! OoO

I agree with you on everything. Literally. I'm frightened.

But also, to my main point. Twilight is not romance. YEAH, NO. Twilight is badly veiled obsession and idiocy. Sense and Sensibility is romance. Elinor & Edward FTW. Same goes for Col. Brandon and Marianne.

Also (yes, again), my most ancient and beloved pairing has to Mulder/Scully (UP UNTIL SEASON 6, I DENY EVERYTHING AFTER THAT).

Also (the final one, I swear), I really hate the idea that people will/must change dramatically for the one they love. I understand making sacrifices, but if you have to completely alter yourself, that isn't love to me. Which is why Geek to Chic movies bother me so much.

Also (HAHA, I LIED!), Ginny makes me so sad. She was cool when she didn't seem to like Harry and had skills and a brain. She truly was torn to pieces and made some perfect being solely so Harry would love (idolize?) her. :(

DOCTOR + ROSE = ALSO FTW

I'm kind of excited right now xD
BTW- Nice new layout, 'tis grooovy.

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lyricalecho February 4 2009, 01:00:37 UTC
BRAINTWINS OOOH SPOOKY

I need to watch X-Files so much, or at least I need to watch more X-Files than a few scattered bits and pieces. XD

And yes, that is frustrating. I mean, aside from the fact that geek beats chic any day, how could you ever be attracted to someone who prefers you to be someone else? You change over time, fine. You say "I HAVE TO CHAAAANGE" and then they tell you they like who you are, fine. But if it's just "mmkay I's someone else now" "YAAAY <3" then... one, how is that the basis of a good relationship and two, how could you ever be happy with yourself.

I know ;___; POOR GINNY, A CASUALTY OF SHIP WARS. I have agreed with a number of other people that Jo really, really, cannot write pairings, and that actually she's best when she has subtext in there accidentally. (Hence, I guess, why Remus/Sirius is so extraordinarily popular. :B)

Oh, yes, I guess you would also be the person to ask about this-- not that I know much, I'm just trying to stir up controversy, but NEW DOCTOR. THOUGHTS?

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ceiling_smiley February 4 2009, 01:11:03 UTC
X-Files: We have every season really worth watching :D, except four which we lent for Swing Kids. But we will get it back. You can borrow, if you like. Which episodes have you seen?

And, oh, gosh- I'm going to miss DTen something fierce, but I think I'll get over it in time. I missed 9 for a while too, but it's OK because I can just watch them on my telly whenever I please.

About the new boy, I was annoyed at first but I'm trying to be optimistic, though I am a bit worried he hasn't got eyebrows and his clothes seem like what the the love-child of 9&10 would wear. I'm sure I'll love him in time, I've got to. I'm more worried about Moffat taking over (the man behind River Song, UGH), but we'll see.

NO, I haven't unhealthy attachments to my shows, what are you talking about? O-O *hides Doctor who encyclopedia*

A shot in the dark here, but do you watch Avatar?
And, about HP, you are totally right. She sort of downgraded Hermione too, to make her rekaionship with Ron work. It's frustrating.

And, DUDE, Remus/Sirius? Totally obvious

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lyricalecho February 4 2009, 01:23:59 UTC
See, that's the thing-- I haven't really seen any actual episodes; I've mostly just wandered into the room while my mom or someone was watching it and seen ten minutes or so at a time. XD I think we have Season 1, but I'll be sure to check with you for later episodes.

Yes, I do watch Avatar! :D Or... I have watched Avatar. I actually STILL haven't seen the last half of Book 3, but I've seen everything else.

I was never allll too much of a fan of Hermione to begin with, but she does really lose something in the later books.
And A;SLKDFJA;S aren't they? XD See, that's a dynamic that I like reading waaay better than any of her canon pairings, and I think it works simply because it's subtextual. (Have you read Shoebox, out of curiosity?)

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silverwind9 February 4 2009, 03:34:06 UTC
Ooooooh, hmm. Wow, if I've got time on my hands, I should type up a manifesto of my own.

What attracts me to pairings? Most of the time-- more like 110% of the time-- I follow canon to a T. That doesn't mean I will love a pairing, though--just that I am far, far more likely to believe in it and invest time in it.

I like pairings where there's a hint of tragedy--not full out angst, but things tempered down by realism, by maturity. I like a conflict of duty and feelings (with duty not being dismissed!) -- for instance, Roy/Riza, Phoenix/Iris (2.5 canon), Jake/Lana, Naked Snake/Boss (ish), even Link/Zelda. I like people acting like adults, and I especially like it when two people work together with a familiarity and intimacy that isn't attraction so much as it is they are just that close (see Roy/Riza again).

..I also like screwed up pairings but that's a WHOLE OTHER STORY ALTOGETHER. |D (Gant/Lana, Kristoph/Phoenix)

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lyricalecho February 4 2009, 20:48:19 UTC
Hm, that's interesting. ...See, tragedy and realism are kind of iffy things for me because I'm really not terribly mature. XD So-- though it's only with certain favorite pairings of mine-- I have a tendency to stick my fingers in my ears and go LA LA LA AND THEN THEY LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER FOREVER AND EVER WITH FLOWERS AND RAINBOWS OKAY THAT'S WHAT THEY DID. I do like a lot of pairings with some level of conflict-- the only issue is that I've seen too many where that seems... kind of artificial, I guess? Like they're given some arbitrary issue just for the sake of making it more interesting. When it's handled well, however, it's fascinating.

...Did that just make any sense at all? XD I think I'm probably too tired to be thinking right now.

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silverwind9 February 5 2009, 01:20:13 UTC
I DO TOTALLY LOVE A HAPPY ENDING WITH RAINBOWS AND PUPPIES TOO~! X3 But ah, if there are trials endured that makes it so much more worth the wait~! *~* Don't take it as a hit on maturity if you don't go for tragedy/realism--it's just personal preference~

But yeah, I totally see a lot of artificial angst wah wah blaaah, and it really is terrible stuff. Also... it often turns to painfully unintentionally hilarious stuff. It's a fine balance, and it often requires things to be told in very muted ways, but yes... when it's done well it's fascinating! What you said made total sense~

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