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21 March, 2029 2012: Sooo....apparently somewhere between LJ changing their update.bml page, and me changing my journal's name, my ability to post got temporarily fucked. Something didn't like the fact that my journal's date is 17 years in the future, and so posts were getting "delayed" until 2029 actually hit. Which means A) that I need to be ( Read more... )

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heron61 March 10 2012, 07:24:48 UTC
The decloseting post is excellent. It's also worth noting that leaving the broom closet is honestly pretty low risk for most people in the developed world (including in the US). If you live in a Blue State or a city anywhere, the odds of career, housing, or child-related problems are exceedingly low, especially compared to coming out as queer, trans, or even poly. It's one of the reasons I'm generally fairly dubious about most neopagans considering themselves to be an oppressed minority - largely we're a completely ignored minority. The situation for neopagans can be different in prison or in Red State small towns, but that's about it.

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teaotter March 10 2012, 07:42:21 UTC
I think maybe you missed the point, or that everything after your first sentence is strangely out of place in a discussion or privilege.

It doesn't really matter what you (or I, for that matter) think the risks are to someone de-closeting about something. There is no objective risk measurement at all. For each individual, there is a relationship between perceived risk and the resources they have available to handle that risk.

There are still openly and oppressively Christian employers in this country, and plenty of careers where limiting your employers can be costly. And if your current employer is one of them, facing the possibility of losing your job is stressful, even if other employers wouldn't care. The way we combine health care and job positions can leave a family in a precarious position if a parent has to change employers, even if they're not unemployed.

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elnigma March 10 2012, 16:46:23 UTC
Family court decisions are pretty much entirely based on the individual judge and their viewpoints. Ultra-conservative judges can be anywhere, even in very "liberal" areas of the country. And who a person will see is just sort of assigned, with just a bit of input from the defendants.
These are determinations of county, not state, and about individual judges (and usually unless someone does something openly egregious that gets wide notice, they stay on the bench), not about what kind of person normally gets elected into state or local office.

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mlerules March 10 2012, 07:45:17 UTC
I'm saddened by the loss of those woods.

I'm lurving the term "broom closet."

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nightpaws March 10 2012, 08:55:44 UTC
Very true about the broom closet ( ... )

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elialshadowpine March 10 2012, 11:37:53 UTC
I moved away from my childhood home in 2003. I came back in 2006 (my parents, bless them, flew me out on a next-day flight when they got the news that our beloved family pet, who kept me sane and was more like a member of the family than a pet, was dying and probably only had a few days left), and on top of what I just said in parenthesis, I also found that the woods that had been across the street from my house had been thinned out. Half of them were gone. When I moved back for permanent (because this is my home, and I'm never leaving again), they were gone entirely.

It was devastating. Most people don't understand. They think, it's just trees. But, it was more than that.

So I emphasize, sincerely, and *hugs offered*

Regarding privilege and the closet, I fully agree, and it's a definite problem. My girlfriend's boyfriend lost custody of his children for being poly, nearly permanently, and it wasn't until his girlfriend and her husband had moved out of state and he told the judge he was no longer with her that the judge would ( ... )

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elnigma March 10 2012, 16:33:25 UTC
I'm so sorry to hear that about your friend and their children. That was horrible,

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oakmouse March 10 2012, 14:01:47 UTC
So very sorry about the woods! Losses like that can be devastating. *hugs*

Also, good essay about closeting.

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