Poor Kai!

Jul 20, 2010 09:14

Ok, so. What the hell!

SPOILERS fo the 'Dragon's child' of the King Arthur trilogy by M. K. Hume.
I know Kai (Caius) is not the most loved character but... but... you can't just make him a pedophile, homosexual, serial killer who beats his wife and his horses and just loves to inflict pain.
It all started with Kai being a little snob as he should be, ( Read more... )

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babydracky July 20 2010, 12:38:03 UTC
OH NOES! TOT
Cai so doesn't derve that! I like Cai! èé

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lucre_noin July 20 2010, 12:51:02 UTC
;__; he definitely doesn't deserve it.
I'm okay with the Kai-is-gay part (of course) but making him into a monster! I think it's just an exaggeration. She really has to hate Kai ;__;!

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babydracky July 20 2010, 13:00:40 UTC
I hate writers who bash their characters like that -_-

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lucre_noin July 20 2010, 13:09:55 UTC
Me too T_T
It's just so pointless. Nothing cruel/strange happened in Kai's life to make a possible explanation of his behaviour but his friendship with Severinus. And he hates women so much.

I read a lot of evil characters, usually Mordred and Morgause, in Arthuriana but they always had some explanation, some hidden motive.

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verecunda July 20 2010, 14:20:18 UTC
Ugh, I hate when writers do that. It's just the oldest, tired trope in the book. "Hey, in order to make sure that the reader is in no doubt at all that this character is bad, let's have them commit every terrible act ever!" It just pushes the whole thing into caricature territory.

Also... Kai? Wut. NO. >_

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lucre_noin July 20 2010, 14:22:53 UTC
And I still am in denial. I'm just writing a story about that book where Kai is not a pedophile serial killer, but he is gay, hates women and loves orgy just like in the novel.
Ha, and he has the abusive boyfriend Severinus. And Arthur saves him, becomes king, and everyone is happy with Arthur/Kay gay love.
(I never write enough KayArthur!)

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verecunda July 20 2010, 15:34:10 UTC
Sounds like a plan!

That's another thing I hate, if the villainous character is also gay, as well as being a murderer/paedophile/rapist, etc. I hate it when they use a character's sexuality to stress that they're "deviant". What century is this, people?

Sorry. Apparently you're getting my rants today...

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lucre_noin July 20 2010, 16:15:21 UTC
Me too! (and I love rants!)
But then I think... gay or het doesn't matter, he is evil!
But in the book it seems... He loves boys so he hates women.
And I thought 'Well, I don't know why. He loves his mother and she is a kind woman. But ok, he just loves his friend Severinus more than his wife.'
And then... he beats his wife. WTF!
And then... he loves boys becomes he kidnaps little children and rapes them (or watches his friend Severinus raping them) and if he kidnaps little girl he tortures and kills them.
WTH!
This just has no relation with homosexuality.
I read wonderful arthuriana with wonderful homosexuality being it for a 'good' character (as I-don-'t-remember-the-name-of-the-lovers in 'Sword at sunset' or for an enermy as for Mordred in 'The once and future king'- well, I thought he was gay, however), but I never read things where homosexuality is used in a bashing.
Because this is definitely bashing.

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mhari July 20 2010, 15:51:29 UTC
Nooooo. :( Crabby git does not equal baby-rapist, what the hell? /FIRES THIS AUTHOR

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lucre_noin July 20 2010, 16:10:06 UTC
Definitely.
I'm still hoping that, in the middle of the book, the author explains it was all a big misunderstanding and Kai is very very innocent.
But- I really think it won't happen : (

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angel_gospel July 20 2010, 23:57:07 UTC
D: I've never hated Kai, except when he was being an evil, spoiled brat in the Disney version of The Once and Future King. Even after that, though, I never thought of him as a bad person. In the actual OaFK, he grew out of his attitude. He may not be my favorite character, but the idea of him so evil scares me. o.O

I also didn't think I'd be so interested in Supernatural, but it's one of my favorites now! I really need to start watching Doctor Who, but I agree, Neal Caffrey has to be one of my favorite guy characters. :D

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lucre_noin July 21 2010, 05:58:47 UTC
I loved Kai in OaFK! <3
However, I have to admit that I judged the Kai of this book too fast. XD (but I still don't like him)

<3 Ohh Adam! Is it Adam, isn't it?

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angel_gospel July 21 2010, 19:41:13 UTC
Yup, it's Adam. Jake Abel is so cute, isn't he? *Loves on him*

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lucre_noin July 22 2010, 07:20:32 UTC
He is!
I'd love to see him more in the next season

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fran_darts August 18 2010, 14:43:42 UTC
WTF that sounds like the most bizarre and awful characterisation of Kai EVER. D: D: D:

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lucre_noin August 18 2010, 14:59:56 UTC
Indeed it is. Because she insists of narrating him as a 'evil sneaky' character also if he seems changed after his 'bully' childish ways. And also after Arthur had discovered what he suffered.

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