Of all of the things to worry, be angry, or sad about in the world --- this? Is not important. Yet I can't seem to stop it meaning something to me.
*raises hand* Me neither. (Me too? Er. Ditto! *g*) In my case, my emotional attachment and deep need to cherish my OTP meant I couldn't even take a look at A2A. Not even idly, as an AU or something. I not only didn't make peace with its existence, but I really just had to deny that existence altogether, so I wiped it off my mental map.
I do firmly believe that the content creators are Not The Bosses Of Us, and we can give characters the endings we want. But nevertheless, the creators have a lot of power and a big megaphone, to get their vision all up in my safe space. And sometimes my emotions are so deep that it's hard to have the creators yammering on (especially about killing characters, and/or completely splitting a pair of them), and I can't blithely expose myself to their take on things.
So... I guess I enlarged my tin hat into a tin hut. (Just with the change of a vowel! :D )
I have to confess, I wish I'd been able to do that. But, as much as I like to talk about Death of the Author and They're Not the Boss of Me... it turns out I don't believe in that at all. If Matthew Graham says one thing, chances are, part of me is always going to believe in that one thing, because he's the writer, it's his vision. Bah, humbug.
The thing is, I don't want to know what happened to Sam, unless the answer is he was reunited with Gene and they drove off into the sunset together, bickering. That was always my ending, regardless of the multiple wide-ranging issues I had. Sam and Gene, influencing each other in good and bad ways, the give and take, and the frustrated affection --- forever.
I feel the exact same way!!!
I am only partway through A2A and I am not sure if I will ever finish it. I prefer to think of it as not being canon, for all the sense that makes!
I knew I wasn't the only one, but it's good to have confirmation. ♥
I actually liked A2A from about 1.04 onwards, and positively looked forward to it during S2, because the standard of the writing in regards to dialogue picked up, Gene became more recognisable, and I do love the actors and writers involved so much. But I liked it within an overarching view of thinking it's a bit shit, you know? "This is utter twaddle, but, hey, this scene is hilarious."
But I liked it within an overarching view of thinking it's a bit shit, you know? "This is utter twaddle, but, hey, this scene is hilarious."
Yes, I feel the same way, more or less. I started to enjoy it after 1x04 too. I still can't watch 1x02, I think that ep is just appallingly bad.
It's weird I don't usually judge anyone when it comes to fandom and I definitely don't knock anyone for liking A2A but I am really puzzled that there are people who actually prefer it to LoM! That? Makes no sense to me! They are just so very different in terms of the level of quality and in the care in how the story unfolds. But everyone has varying takes on things. I will never understand how one can like A2A more, though.
Yes you have. *g* The problem is I'm a bit of a (cynical)romantic myself and while Gene in LoM wasn't always likeable (understatement) his flaws just conspired somehow to make him an even better man in that he did learn and grow just like Sam did. That's where the brilliance of their relationship/romance lies for me and A2A was in danger of killing that for me by pushing him over the edge in to a full-blown stereotype, like Sam had no impact on the man Gene had become. I didn't trust them not to ruin Gene for me and LoM is one of my favourite things, EVER. After seeing what they did to Gene I *know* I don't want to hear their take on Sam. Nope.
The thing that annoyed me most about Gene's characterisation in A2A (but that had crept into S2 of LoM too), was that they glorified him so much. I don't know how far you got into that first series, but there were some ludicrously overblown scenes of him being a Big Damn Hero that didn't ring true, at all. I think, mostly, the reason he seems like more of a stereotype is that he doesn't get called on his behaviour much --- is, in fact, now shown as being the Protagonist whose opinion we're meant to relate to. (There's some grey there, it isn't exactly like that, but this is definitely a lingering impression.) And I don't agree with most of Gene's views most of the time
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Sgt. Chamekke of Queen Alexandra's Tin Hat Brigade reporting for duty, sir!
Seriously, where do I join up? There's a queue forming behind me, you know... I hope your recruitment centre has a cafeteria! Because you do speak for quite a few of us.
For me, thinking about Sam's post-LoM existence according to A2A is like having a sore tooth with a bit of the filling missing... you keep going back to it against your better judgment, morbidly probing it with your tongue, even though you know you'll have much more peace of mind, not to mention comfort, if you just leave it be until the dentist, er...
Maybe I'd better abandon that metaphor. (For one thing, I'm not sure what that makes your rainbowfic. Periodontics?)
But it is SO aggravating that the show's creators are saying that this will be a wrapping-up of Sam's story as well as A2A's. If the A2A story turns out to exist entirely and solely in Alex's injured cranium, well and good. Her story can exist independently of the real Sam's story without conflict, in that case. But I doubt that it'
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At least the headgear is cheerful. See how the tin hat reflects the sun's rays :-P
And bounces radio waves ;) I can currently hear Queen - Radio Gaga.
But it is SO aggravating that the show's creators are saying that this will be a wrapping-up of Sam's story as well as A2A's.
I am really glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. It comes back to the fact that Life on Mars was all about questions and the beauty of it was that few of them were ever answered. It's what made the show such a success, I'd wager.
Sam and Gene are my OTP. I suppose my experience differed a little, in that by the time I got into the fandom and got writing for it I went straight for the happy ending (not without some trials and obstacles for them, but you know, basically together in a riding off into the brown-and-orange sunset together sort of way).
And A2A I can deal with (enjoy, even, in a limited fashion) so long as I treat is as any other fanfic AU. So the idea that the writers are going to claim that it has some bearing on LoM canon really puts me off watching the 3rd season altogether. I don't need to know what happens to Sam because I *already* know what happens to him!! (and its pretty much as you describe above, as far as I'm concerned *g*).
*polishes tin hat with sleeve*
Oh, and I meant to say: glad to hear you are back in your house again. It must be a bit of a relief after all the upheaval!
I suppose my experience differed a little, in that by the time I got into the fandom and got writing for it I went straight for the happy ending (not without some trials and obstacles for them, but you know, basically together in a riding off into the brown-and-orange sunset together sort of way).It took me forever to get there without feeling guilty --- and to this day, I don't really know what I ever felt guilty about. But I did! I felt like it wasn't "true" or something, I don't know. Because, despite liking a certain level of domesticity and sentimentality, I am really not a mushy love-declaration and roses kind of girl, I shied away from writing stories about them that weren't heavily restrained, or cloaked with a measure of ambiguity, or portents of an uncertain future. I didn't fully realise I could write a fic that was clearly all about their love without needing that "I love you" spoken aloud
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Yes, I certainly think that a happy ending for Sam & Gene can be all about their love without needing that "I love you" spoken aloud - which is more in character for them, anyway (IMHO *g*).
For me, AUs are like any other fic: they can work if the characterisation works. But I know what you mean about being frustrated with A2A - Gene almost seems like a caricature of himself, and his relationship with Alex just doesn't have the same chemistry as with Sam (you know, the slow-growing grudging respect; the gruff, unspoken affection, etc). It's almost like the writers figured that as long as they put some flirting in to A2A, then they would have the magic ingredient. If only things really were that easy!
there's one I keep meaning to finish about Gene as a PI, which had awesome writing, I seem to recall - thanks ♥, but don't sweat it if AUs aren't really your thing :)
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*raises hand* Me neither. (Me too? Er. Ditto! *g*) In my case, my emotional attachment and deep need to cherish my OTP meant I couldn't even take a look at A2A. Not even idly, as an AU or something. I not only didn't make peace with its existence, but I really just had to deny that existence altogether, so I wiped it off my mental map.
I do firmly believe that the content creators are Not The Bosses Of Us, and we can give characters the endings we want. But nevertheless, the creators have a lot of power and a big megaphone, to get their vision all up in my safe space. And sometimes my emotions are so deep that it's hard to have the creators yammering on (especially about killing characters, and/or completely splitting a pair of them), and I can't blithely expose myself to their take on things.
So... I guess I enlarged my tin hat into a tin hut. (Just with the change of a vowel! :D )
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I feel the exact same way!!!
I am only partway through A2A and I am not sure if I will ever finish it. I prefer to think of it as not being canon, for all the sense that makes!
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I actually liked A2A from about 1.04 onwards, and positively looked forward to it during S2, because the standard of the writing in regards to dialogue picked up, Gene became more recognisable, and I do love the actors and writers involved so much. But I liked it within an overarching view of thinking it's a bit shit, you know? "This is utter twaddle, but, hey, this scene is hilarious."
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Yes, I feel the same way, more or less. I started to enjoy it after 1x04 too. I still can't watch 1x02, I think that ep is just appallingly bad.
It's weird I don't usually judge anyone when it comes to fandom and I definitely don't knock anyone for liking A2A but I am really puzzled that there are people who actually prefer it to LoM! That? Makes no sense to me! They are just so very different in terms of the level of quality and in the care in how the story unfolds. But everyone has varying takes on things. I will never understand how one can like A2A more, though.
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I tried to watch A2A but I couldn't even recognize Gene so I gave up... *is happy in the land of denial*
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Yes you have. *g* The problem is I'm a bit of a (cynical)romantic myself and while Gene in LoM wasn't always likeable (understatement) his flaws just conspired somehow to make him an even better man in that he did learn and grow just like Sam did. That's where the brilliance of their relationship/romance lies for me and A2A was in danger of killing that for me by pushing him over the edge in to a full-blown stereotype, like Sam had no impact on the man Gene had become. I didn't trust them not to ruin Gene for me and LoM is one of my favourite things, EVER. After seeing what they did to Gene I *know* I don't want to hear their take on Sam. Nope.
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Seriously, where do I join up? There's a queue forming behind me, you know... I hope your recruitment centre has a cafeteria! Because you do speak for quite a few of us.
For me, thinking about Sam's post-LoM existence according to A2A is like having a sore tooth with a bit of the filling missing... you keep going back to it against your better judgment, morbidly probing it with your tongue, even though you know you'll have much more peace of mind, not to mention comfort, if you just leave it be until the dentist, er...
Maybe I'd better abandon that metaphor. (For one thing, I'm not sure what that makes your rainbowfic. Periodontics?)
But it is SO aggravating that the show's creators are saying that this will be a wrapping-up of Sam's story as well as A2A's. If the A2A story turns out to exist entirely and solely in Alex's injured cranium, well and good. Her story can exist independently of the real Sam's story without conflict, in that case. But I doubt that it' ( ... )
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And bounces radio waves ;) I can currently hear Queen - Radio Gaga.
But it is SO aggravating that the show's creators are saying that this will be a wrapping-up of Sam's story as well as A2A's.
I am really glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. It comes back to the fact that Life on Mars was all about questions and the beauty of it was that few of them were ever answered. It's what made the show such a success, I'd wager.
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Sam and Gene are my OTP. I suppose my experience differed a little, in that by the time I got into the fandom and got writing for it I went straight for the happy ending (not without some trials and obstacles for them, but you know, basically together in a riding off into the brown-and-orange sunset together sort of way).
And A2A I can deal with (enjoy, even, in a limited fashion) so long as I treat is as any other fanfic AU. So the idea that the writers are going to claim that it has some bearing on LoM canon really puts me off watching the 3rd season altogether. I don't need to know what happens to Sam because I *already* know what happens to him!! (and its pretty much as you describe above, as far as I'm concerned *g*).
*polishes tin hat with sleeve*
Oh, and I meant to say: glad to hear you are back in your house again. It must be a bit of a relief after all the upheaval!
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For me, AUs are like any other fic: they can work if the characterisation works. But I know what you mean about being frustrated with A2A - Gene almost seems like a caricature of himself, and his relationship with Alex just doesn't have the same chemistry as with Sam (you know, the slow-growing grudging respect; the gruff, unspoken affection, etc). It's almost like the writers figured that as long as they put some flirting in to A2A, then they would have the magic ingredient. If only things really were that easy!
there's one I keep meaning to finish about Gene as a PI, which had awesome writing, I seem to recall - thanks ♥, but don't sweat it if AUs aren't really your thing :)
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