In which there is Singular Fraternization between the agents of Heaven and Hell.

Feb 18, 2008 01:45

Hi! I mostly lurk in this fandom, but yesterday I was going through the ol' box o' porn comics at my local comic book shop, and I found something that I *had* to share with Good Omens fandom at large ( Read more... )

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vulgarweed February 18 2008, 06:57:50 UTC
Bwah! Hadn't seen that one before. Oh, Neil. I just knew there was a sleazy pornographer in you just waiting to get paid out. ♥

I've always thought that Neil knows perfectly well that he's in a glass house when it comes to the things fanfic writers get up to. (Has anyone in this fandom managed anything as brain-breaking as an Aslan/White Witch oral sex scene in a dream sequence? No, didn't think so.)

I think he just doesn't think of Crowley and Aziraphale that way and finds it hilarious that so many people do. I think one possible explanation is that during the writing process, he and Terry might have started identifying with them more than a little...and, while I have nothing against RPF in principle, I could see that being awfully weird if you were so complicatedly involved. XD

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melannen February 18 2008, 07:09:18 UTC
See, I just don't get how he could have written *that* comic and *still* claim he's never thought of Crowley and Aziraphale that way. You're asked to write a slash porn comic and the first thing you think of is an angel and demon who've been alone on earth together for millenia? It's basically a Good Omens crossover!

...well, no, I understand the over-identifying bit. Maybe he just never *realized* that he thought of them that way. :D

(I was going to say that I dispute that Cherry is sleazy, but no, it's *totally* sleazy, it's just that after thumbing through Vamperotica and Dildo! and Rear Entry it was like sheer beauty.)

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vulgarweed February 18 2008, 07:35:17 UTC
But they're girls! It's different! XD Not that Neil's never written gay male sex or characters - he has, of course. But I think that might be where his fancy went this time. Maybe something in his subconscious coming out there--all over a Cherry Poptart interlude, of all things.(I remember actually buying a few issues of that years ago - aren't the Archie Comics people all ballistic over fanfic? I suppose I can see why. *cackles*)

But yeah, wow. Some of their dialogue even sounds a little bit familiar.

Y'know, if Neil and Terry didn't want so many people going straight for the subtext, they might have reconsidered making Agnes Nutter's descendant hone in on it.

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melannen February 18 2008, 21:41:48 UTC
There were actually two completely different porn comics in that box that used an Archie-esque style! Yeah, they're very uptight about it, but I guess just borrowing the style and the setting isn't enough to be actionable.

And yes! You could almost swap the genders and submit this as an A/C story and it wouldn't even look too OOC. :D Oh Neil.

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fleur_de_liz February 18 2008, 07:20:56 UTC
Y'know, the scans_daily rule is that no more than half of the total story is posted. So if you wanted to post more... :D

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melannen February 18 2008, 21:48:15 UTC
Oh, they must've changed the rules since I stopped hanging out there! :P Most of what I didn't scan is pure porn with no distracting dialog bubbles anyway, so you can probably work it out for yourself.

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fearofziggy February 18 2008, 12:05:38 UTC
*snort* Yeah, he has NO room to talk...

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melannen February 18 2008, 21:56:23 UTC
I know, right? :D

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s0mmeil February 18 2008, 12:49:20 UTC
...Did anyone else read his short story Murder Mysteries?

It's been about a year since I last did, but I recall mention of exploratory physical (if not outright sexual) interaction between two angels (who may have been "sexless"). They were researching something. Love. Something, I don't remember. It's just that, if I remember this much correctly, both angels were referred to as "he". Um. Like I said, it's been a while and I'm not sure where I've put the book.

I could be making all of this up.

Aaaand...I'm not. Found something about it. Neil says, "...Part of the point of the angels is that, while I refer to them all as he, and Craig draws them all male, that's fundamentally irrelevant to sexuality -- it's about emotion and love and lust and death..."

And the slash isn't? ;)

I suppose I just wanted to point this out =)

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numinicious February 18 2008, 13:04:41 UTC
Murder Mysteries is one of my favorite Gaiman short stories! Besides the amazing writing, P. Craig Russell does an excellent job with the artwork in comic form.

But I'm pretty sure that Gaiman implied the angels were technically sexless, although they were all referred to as "he". ( Probably in the same way that God is sexless, but is referred to as "He". )

In the graphic novel version Craig makes them very, very masculine indeed, which would be a bit distracting if it weren't so hot.

:)

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melannen February 18 2008, 21:54:00 UTC
I only read Murder Mysteries once, way back in the day, (the version in Smoke and Mirrors) and I can never remember how much of what I recall was in the story, and how much was in Afrai's GO crossover, City of Angels. :D But yeah, as I recall, it was pretty slashy but never openly sexual. Although I understand the illustrated version was ... not drawn in an asexual way. :D

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melannen February 18 2008, 21:55:55 UTC
The non-crossover Cherry stories are *even moreso*. It's awesome!

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