Ahhh Tibbikins...

[lostumbrella]

 All right, you fans of Tibby (he does look quite cute in those John Lennon glasses), let's get him out of our system!

Henry Wilcox says: "lack of education makes people very casual." That is to say, UNeducated people are indifferent, apathetic, uncaring, flippant. Then, his conviction is that those with education are careful, thorough, concerned.

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QIANWEN!

[viavague]

(YAY FIRST

QIANWEN! (cont'd)

[viavague]

Tibby is definitely more noble than Leonard.

Firstly, Leonard had an affair with Helen. Being noble obviously does not mean having an affair with someone else while you are already married.

Secondly, Tibby is able to keep himself cool and collected most of the time. Leonard felt "hot with stupid anger" when Margaret talked to him with absolutely no intent of making him feel angry ot insulting him. While, Tibby did not burst out in fits of anger when Margaret chided him for not being a good host, he just went and played host when Leonard called the next time. Also, he did not burst out in outrage when Helen asked him to transfer money. I think being cool and collected are both parts of being noble.

Thirdly, he did transfer the money even when he did not want to. He transferred the money as a favour for Helen. This goes against his own views but he did it anyway because he was noble enough to trust Helen even when he thought the idea was outrageous.

Tibby's hair is so cute! :D

erwina :D

[anonymous]

I wouldn't place him anywhere. He's hardly in the situation, and I'd rather place Tibby seperately as an individual. But, if I have to, I'll place him almost in the middle, nearer to the Wilcoxes. Not because he's like the Wilcoxes, but because he's too different from Leonard

jodie (:

[18yongtaufooz]

(Sidenote #1) I don't particularly love how tibby looked in the movie >< SOMEHOW, I wanted tibby to be cute. he he he. yknow...like someone thin...bespectacled...cute as a whole… he he he okaysorryyoucanignoreme

jodie (:

[18yongtaufooz]

As mentioned above, although he feels insecure and is “corroded with suspicion” in the beginning, Leonard is morally upright as seen by his effort to help the german couple, and he is also sensitive when he said: "Jacky, let's go. We're more bother than we're worth.” I also share the same thoughts with Erwina about Leonard marrying Jacky, as not many young people can keep such a promise despite knowing the current and future difficulties for both of them. Finally, it is such a splendid thing to know that Leonard can be so strongly driven to improve himself. I am sure that not many people would have tried so hard to improve themselves, though I do not support the idea of being overly obsessed with self-improvement through superficial ways (such as owning an umbrella). Then again, he is also inspirational as he can walk the whole night and “would camp out, and cares for something special IN adventure and that something special is poetry.”, clearly showing true elements of the inner life

Re: jodie (:

[happyho1]

Hello! I found something which is similar to your point about Tibby's technicality.
pg 90, "His Oxford remained Oxford empty, and he took into life with him, not the memory of a radiance, but the memory of a colour scheme."
Here, the word 'scheme' is used, which refers to something like a plan, something rather systematic. This can also support your point on how he resembles the Wilcoxes as both parties deal with the technical side of things.

Fiona

[solemndrollery]

Dealing with the first point about most educated people actually being the casual ones, I think that it is ironic for Henry to comment that 'lack of education makes people very casual'. Through the behaviour and personalities of the educated characters (I shall not deliberate on this for now), it is plain to see that many of them display a certain casual attitude, arrogance and blindness towards some matters. Yet, if Henry fails to make this proper observation and realise that at times he had been casual too, then I say that he himself is being casual with his judgement

Re: Fiona

[lostumbrella]

I believe both you and Jodie got it right about Tibby's indifference towards people in general. (Noticed how he's always eating? Hmm...)

Fiona (part 2 hehe)

[solemndrollery]

I will not dwell too much on Leonard as I think the main reasons he can be seen as more noble is that he oftens takes into consideration other people and has a strong sense of responsibility. Even when he realised that clearing out of the Porphyrion was a bad move, he was not overly bitter and did not start incessantly blaming the Schlegels (or rather Henry) for providing such poor advice. He tries to take it in his stride and also to spare the sisters the guilt or any obligation to compensate him. Although we do not know for sure what he truly desired then but he did remark that the sisters need not bother with him too much. Also, even though he was in need of money, he turned down Helen's money probably because he did not want her to know that he actually needs help after her wrong tip about the Porphyrion, therefore not burdening her with the responsibility