Thanks. I had a lot of help from similar statements others have made, but I think that really is my problem with slashers... female slashers who only want to write about men.
I love this whole entire post and agree with you wholeheartedly (even though I voted for Jim/Pam/Karen), but never more than on this statement:
I don't like slash terribly much, and people who try and convince me to watch based on Denny being on it... clearly didn't pay attention to my hating Denny and wanting him to die and get off my show.
It's like you're inside my mind, birthday twin. INSIDE MY MIND.
Jim/Pam/Karen was actually the one question that had two acceptable answers. I just like Karen more than Charlie.
Funny, I was reading your post and thinking that SAME thing about you being in my brain.
There's been a lot of brain sharing concepts recently... what with my realization that to create Grey's Shonda reaches into the depth of the brains of hobviously and some horrible little 13 year old girl who writes fic about TRULUV and uses horrible ship names and ships the most boring horrible pairings ever and thus it's bipolar nature exists.
Yeah, I definitely suggest giving Bones a second chance. Like I said, I wasn't hooked immediately and it's definitely found a better rhythm in season 2.
Yeah. I mean I enjoyed the line about the immortal and haha, buffy is unamerican, but I was just starting to feel like it was starting and it was over. I think this is why I perfer comics when they come in the big graphic novel form.
OMG, yay for long fannish posts. I sense this will be a long, fannish comment.
So I'm just saying, it grew on me and maybe if you let it... it will grow on you too.
Seriously? Huh. I was really excited for Bones, because I have a huge soft spot for chemistry between partners, and I nearly always get sucked into that kind of drama. Mulder/Scully, Elliot/Olivia, etcetera. But I watched the pilot and I was completely unimpressed and bored, and I didn't like the main actress. I believe I downloaded the second episode JIC, but I either FFed through it very quickly or skipped it entirely. This kind of makes me thing I should try it again. What episode(s) would you suggest I watch if I were to give it another go?
I was shocked to find in my poll that someone I generally find to have much the same taste as myself, apparently is the one person not to like these books, who has been exposedYeah, I guess that would be me? I tried to revive my interest in fantasy the first summer I was home from college, and I bought the first ASOIAF book
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Bones was definitely a show it took me a while to get hooked on. I think the episode I stopped "catching it occasionally" and started making sure to see after was "Judas on a Pole" but I missed a lot of the earlier stuff (yay for friend with DVDs he willing to lend me) so I wouldn't say that is a definitive "best" or whatever. I know a lot of people loved the ep in which they went to Vegas. I definitely think that Emily/Bones takes a while to grow on you because she's really closed off (although less so this season), but JoaP is a lot about her backstory so it might help. I would also try a lighter ep (like maybe the Pirate one?) because often when you aren't attached to the characters you don't want to hear about their drama. "Aliens in a Spaceship" for instance is a really good ep but only if you care about the characters
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Oh, I didn't think you were, no worries. And I actually really used to love fantasy when I was a kid, but I think I've always enjoyed the lighter, subversive stuff or the stuff that's really grounded in our universe, like Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell, which I adored.
But most of all I wish you were right and Lee will just hallucinate her all season like Gaius and Six and Tigh and Ellen and Adama and his ex wife. I think everyone should see their SO in their cracked out brains.
Especially since (to me, at least) the hallucinations we've seen on the show all seem to be induced by staggering amounts of guilt. Gaius's selfishness resulted in the genocide of the human race, and so Six is part of his PTSD. Caprica!Six fell in love with Gaius and betrayed him. Tigh killed Ellen. And Lee convinced Kara to fly that day, to trust him to keep her safe. So it would be consistent. Not that this show actually does consistent, but I can dream.
Have you read Phillip Pullman's His Dark Materials? The primary world is an AU in which John Calvin became Pope instead of Protestantism taking off and various other things are different, but it also goes into ours world and various others and it's a subversive theological piece eventually.
That makes so much sense... sadly too much sense for the show.
HA. You know ITA, and I figure that Logan MUST disappear if they pursue VM:FBI, because the point of the reformatting would be to gain new viewers, and the #1 way to fuck that up would be not introducing an all-new romantic relationship for the audience to become invested in. In a way, the shittiness of Logan/Veronica (which I loved with all my heart and soul in S1) is the fault of VM's low ratings; they can't acknowledge their complicated history and the baggage because they don't want to drive away casual viewers who don't know any of it. I'd take no Logan over the shell of Logan we see every week any day.
While I'd be perfectly happy to see Veronica Mars canceled and put out of it's misery like it deserves and probably will be, part of me does want some sort of redemption for something so fallen... and probably it wouldn't work out that way but a little part of me hopes.I feel you totally on the character development (or lack thereof) of S3, but I've actually enjoyed a lot more of
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You've hit the nail on the head with the Logan thing. It actually might be good to kill him to ensure no one is like "maybe Logan will come back
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It actually might be good to kill him to ensure no one is like "maybe Logan will come back".
I think that could generate a lot of drama, and I think it's a really interesting idea, and one that I totally support. Another f'lister of mine suggested that Logan could land in jail and that Veronica could have helped put him there, and so when he gets out he'd be looking to exact some sort of revenge (although nothing lame of the daytime soap variety, I hope), which I thought was another possibility that's very noir.
I admit that my frustration is more with her missing main cast friends absence
Oh, yeah. I cannot even believe how small Wallace's role has been this season. Really, if I had my way, Jason Dohring's # of episode orders would be switched with Percy Dagg's.
When I heard about the rape plotline I assumed that the intent was to create that resonance so yeah I was disappointed by that.
Yes, definitely. You are preaching to the choir.
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I must confess that this is my idea of TORTURE OMG, but hee.
I like the idea of Veronica putting Logan in jail (the idea was brought up in season 1 after all).
Also I think we saw more of Mac BEFORE they made her a main cast member.
The musical TV Series would only work for me if it didn't take itself too seriously. Also it really would work better as more of a mini-series than show. Also I am just too amused by myself clearly.
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I don't like slash terribly much, and people who try and convince me to watch based on Denny being on it... clearly didn't pay attention to my hating Denny and wanting him to die and get off my show.
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Funny, I was reading your post and thinking that SAME thing about you being in my brain.
There's been a lot of brain sharing concepts recently... what with my realization that to create Grey's Shonda reaches into the depth of the brains of hobviously and some horrible little 13 year old girl who writes fic about TRULUV and uses horrible ship names and ships the most boring horrible pairings ever and thus it's bipolar nature exists.
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Yeah. I mean I enjoyed the line about the immortal and haha, buffy is unamerican, but I was just starting to feel like it was starting and it was over. I think this is why I perfer comics when they come in the big graphic novel form.
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So I'm just saying, it grew on me and maybe if you let it... it will grow on you too.
Seriously? Huh. I was really excited for Bones, because I have a huge soft spot for chemistry between partners, and I nearly always get sucked into that kind of drama. Mulder/Scully, Elliot/Olivia, etcetera. But I watched the pilot and I was completely unimpressed and bored, and I didn't like the main actress. I believe I downloaded the second episode JIC, but I either FFed through it very quickly or skipped it entirely. This kind of makes me thing I should try it again. What episode(s) would you suggest I watch if I were to give it another go?
I was shocked to find in my poll that someone I generally find to have much the same taste as myself, apparently is the one person not to like these books, who has been exposedYeah, I guess that would be me? I tried to revive my interest in fantasy the first summer I was home from college, and I bought the first ASOIAF book ( ... )
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Oh, I didn't think you were, no worries. And I actually really used to love fantasy when I was a kid, but I think I've always enjoyed the lighter, subversive stuff or the stuff that's really grounded in our universe, like Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell, which I adored.
But most of all I wish you were right and Lee will just hallucinate her all season like Gaius and Six and Tigh and Ellen and Adama and his ex wife. I think everyone should see their SO in their cracked out brains.
Especially since (to me, at least) the hallucinations we've seen on the show all seem to be induced by staggering amounts of guilt. Gaius's selfishness resulted in the genocide of the human race, and so Six is part of his PTSD. Caprica!Six fell in love with Gaius and betrayed him. Tigh killed Ellen. And Lee convinced Kara to fly that day, to trust him to keep her safe. So it would be consistent. Not that this show actually does consistent, but I can dream.
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That makes so much sense...
sadly too much sense for the show.
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HA. You know ITA, and I figure that Logan MUST disappear if they pursue VM:FBI, because the point of the reformatting would be to gain new viewers, and the #1 way to fuck that up would be not introducing an all-new romantic relationship for the audience to become invested in. In a way, the shittiness of Logan/Veronica (which I loved with all my heart and soul in S1) is the fault of VM's low ratings; they can't acknowledge their complicated history and the baggage because they don't want to drive away casual viewers who don't know any of it. I'd take no Logan over the shell of Logan we see every week any day.
While I'd be perfectly happy to see Veronica Mars canceled and put out of it's misery like it deserves and probably will be, part of me does want some sort of redemption for something so fallen... and probably it wouldn't work out that way but a little part of me hopes.I feel you totally on the character development (or lack thereof) of S3, but I've actually enjoyed a lot more of ( ... )
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I think that could generate a lot of drama, and I think it's a really interesting idea, and one that I totally support. Another f'lister of mine suggested that Logan could land in jail and that Veronica could have helped put him there, and so when he gets out he'd be looking to exact some sort of revenge (although nothing lame of the daytime soap variety, I hope), which I thought was another possibility that's very noir.
I admit that my frustration is more with her missing main cast friends absence
Oh, yeah. I cannot even believe how small Wallace's role has been this season. Really, if I had my way, Jason Dohring's # of episode orders would be switched with Percy Dagg's.
When I heard about the rape plotline I assumed that the intent was to create that resonance so yeah I was disappointed by that.
Yes, definitely. You are preaching to the choir.
a MUSICIAL TV SERIES
I must confess that this is my idea of TORTURE OMG, but hee.
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Also I think we saw more of Mac BEFORE they made her a main cast member.
The musical TV Series would only work for me if it didn't take itself too seriously. Also it really would work better as more of a mini-series than show. Also I am just too amused by myself clearly.
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