Ethical capitalism

Apr 04, 2016 12:22

Lots of people don't believe in ethical capitalism, for various reasons. Maybe they think capitalism is inherently unethical as a system and if you participate in it at all you're tainted. Or they think that consumer choices don't really have important ethical consequences. Or they think it's unfair that the extra costs of ethical business ( Read more... )

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ghoti April 4 2016, 11:55:03 UTC
You can get a battery replaced in a phone really easily by going to Timpsons.

YOu can get special stylii for use on non-stylus phones, I have one of each, you should give it a go?

Weird version of Android sets off alarm bells for me. It's probably not GPL compliant and probably won't get security upgrades. You might not care about intellectual property rights, but you probably do care a little bit about security? IDK.

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livredor April 4 2016, 12:07:40 UTC
Ooh, I'm really glad I asked, because I was planning to try Timpsons as a first port of call but nobody else I mentioned this to knew whether they can replace batteries. And if I can have a stylus I'll miss my current phone much less if I do need to replace it, so again, you have really useful knowledge, thank you!

The thing about the Honor 5X is that the marketing is really ambiguous whether it actually has a non-official version of Android, or if it just has vanilla Android with its own proprietary UI pasted on top. Which lots of mainstream phones have. I do rather care about breaking the GPL, if it were obvious to me that's what the phone was doing I'd rule it out. I think the issue with not getting upgrades is that AFAICT almost no phones really do apart from the Google Nexus and in some ways I'd rather go to something fully Free Software like CyanogenMod than lock myself even more further into Google, who already own way too much of my life. But I could be confused about this, maybe getting Android updates is the default, not ( ... )

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ghoti April 4 2016, 12:25:44 UTC
I did tell you already that Timpsons change phone batteries! I just said that I didn't know whether it would be cheap enough that you'd think it worth it because I've never had that kind of phone.

A quick google finds the source code for the Honor 5X easily, so that might not be a worry.
I've never had a phone where updates didn't just work, so maybe that is an issue, but I thought it was only an issue with the ones which weren't GPL compliant - J's non Nexus tablet seems to update automatically.

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livredor April 4 2016, 12:37:33 UTC
I think you're better at Googling than me, I tried to find stuff about which phones are ok with GPL and all I pulled up was a controversy from 2011 about some phone manufacturers not being in compliance back then. I did know from you about Timpsons doing repairs, but I had heard rumours that some phones made so that the battery can't really be replaced. And yeah, I'm still fretting about price, though perhaps I should just not care, I'd rather pay £100 to keep my current phone alive than quite a lot more than that for the difference between an unethical phone and a Fairphone with lower spec.

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