When did this French word become an insult? (Updated)

Feb 17, 2015 19:51

I have a character who is referring to someone she dislikes, slipping occasionally into French. I rather like the word "blaireau" for tone and sound, but I am not sure how early it was used in its contemporary insulting meaning. The older French-English dictionaries I have found from the late 1800's only give its literal meanings as "badger" or " ( Read more... )

france (misc), ~languages: french, 1930-1939

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anonymous February 20 2015, 17:26:49 UTC
How early? 20s?

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mottleyfool February 20 2015, 19:07:18 UTC
1930's.

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orange_fell February 20 2015, 19:33:59 UTC
I'll add the 1930s tag; you might want to put that information in the body of the post too.

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anonymous February 20 2015, 17:55:19 UTC
http://archive.org/stream/dictionnairehist00larcuoft/dictionnairehist00larcuoft_djvu.txt Has an 1880 reference of blaireau equating to simpleton, so you should be fine with anything in the 20th century.

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mottleyfool February 20 2015, 19:08:19 UTC
The speaker is francophone Belgian.

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ignescent_fic February 20 2015, 18:01:05 UTC
http://archive.org/stream/dictionnairehist00larcuoft/dictionnairehist00larcuoft_djvu.txt Was published in 1880 and has a reference to blaireau being an animal that can refer to people who are simpletons...

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mottleyfool February 20 2015, 19:06:23 UTC
Thanks! That is a great resource, but presents other problems. I understood the modern meaning to be the equivalent of "Jerk" or "Asshole" in English. The person in question is very obnoxious, but not a fool or simpleton. More complicated than I thought. Maybe I'll just choose a different term.

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ignescent_fic February 20 2015, 23:42:31 UTC
modern argot lists it as idiot / imbicile, but includes contempt - stupid seems to have more negative implications in french than in english.

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orange_fell February 21 2015, 17:06:45 UTC
You might also try posting this question over at linguaphiles. It's still a pretty active community and I know there are some francophones there.

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mottleyfool February 21 2015, 18:25:13 UTC
Thank you!

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