Siye: Genitive and Possessive Cases, Word Order, Suffixaufnahme

Jun 10, 2012 15:23

Siye has two genitive-like case enclitics, the genitive and the possessive. The possessive indicates a relationship which is more intimate and less separable than the that indicated by the genitive. The primary axis of differentiation is inalienable vs. alienable, but the division is neither near nor wholly logical. Examples follows.

Genitive -ne
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conlang, syntax, suffixaufnahme, cases

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linguavore September 11 2012, 18:52:59 UTC
Would it be Suffixaufnahme if it were thus? And if not, what would one call it? It's more complex than standard single case marking.
sili pitakemelosum
sili pitake=me=lo=sum
house animal-POSS-PL-ABL
from the lair of the beasts
"I dropped a stone to the bottom of the cliff" would be
le lumnu yeneye yetammekemsu yetam tum eletupusumnuna.
le-0-0 lumnu yeneye yetam-me-kem-su
1-SG-NOM low.place wall stone-POSS-LOC-ALL
yetam-0 tum
stone-ABS INDEF
e-le-tu-pu-sum-nu-ne-a
3IN-1-go.PFV-SG-CAUS-DIR.DOWN-PFV-POSITIVE.REALIS
Literally, "I caused a stone to go down to the low place of the stone wall."

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linguavore November 11 2012, 00:36:53 UTC
I'll consider reintroducing Suffixaufnahme after Relay 20. "A stone fell to the bottom of the wall." is "yetam lumnu yeneye yetammekemsu etupununa," literally "a stone went down to the bottom of the wall." The -sum- is gone, because the verb is no longer causative. "I went to the bottom of the wall" (assuming you didn't fall off it) is "le lumnu yeneye yetammekemsu ituputuna", with diffect directive suffix (-tu-) in the the verb, and no causative suffix.

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