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Oct 31, 2007 21:19

A succinct political conversation that nonetheless sums it all up somehow ( Read more... )

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sidhe_etain November 1 2007, 01:53:23 UTC
Sadly accurate.

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garan_du November 1 2007, 02:01:53 UTC
I often wonder just how well "None of the Above" would do were that selection mandated on every ballot in the country.

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Obama rfunk November 1 2007, 12:48:27 UTC
I haven't heard warmongering from him (certainly not like Hillary), but he has managed to alienate much of the gay community lately.

Eh, it's all a matter of degree though. Nobody with a chance of winning will be perfect for anybody, so you just try to get the best you can get.

(Personally Edwards and Obama are my top choices right now, but it'd be hard to be worse than the fearmongering and hate coming from everyone on the other side.)

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Re: Obama lillassea November 3 2007, 20:24:03 UTC
It was in August I think... he made a big tough-guy speech about invading Pakistan. (Oh, THAT'S a grand idea. That's just what we need.) Also talked about increasing troops in Afghanistan. It was probably in response to the Hillary camp's criticism of him as being naive about defense, etc. I was very disappointed.

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Re: Obama rfunk November 4 2007, 19:28:26 UTC
Ah, hadn't heard about that.

Well, at least Pakistan makes more sense than Iraq or Iran, based on what's going on there. Still not a great idea, but Pakistan certainly hasn't been acting like the ally that the Bush administration treats it as. The stuff they claimed Iraq was doing is much more accurately descriptive of Pakistan.

And the Iraq war has sapped strength from the efforts in Afghanistan, where they had been making real progress until then. The Taliban and Al Qaeda have been resurging there and in Pakistan as a result.

A pacifist will never get elected president. The best I can hope for is someone that won't go off on bad justifications at bad targets the first chance (s)he gets.

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Re: Obama lillassea November 6 2007, 07:54:56 UTC
A pacifist will never get elected president. The best I can hope for is someone that won't go off on bad justifications at bad targets the first chance (s)he gets.

Goodness no, I don't expect a pacifist. But like you, I've just had it up to here with fake-ass wars spurred by fake-ass motives. Also pretty tired of the jingoism and manipulative "tough talk" that's supposed to make ignorant people feel better about this or that potential leader. Ugh, what a country...

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ladyblackwolfe November 1 2007, 18:19:55 UTC
Rigged. That is a good word for it! I've had that feeling about this for quite awhile. Almost like it's some ... social experiment or something. *sigh* It'll be interesting ....

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lillassea November 2 2007, 05:57:30 UTC
YES... like we're all guinea pigs in a giant lab... or something. It's an uneasy feeling.

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gigglingwizard November 3 2007, 03:49:03 UTC
Gore-Kucinich '08!

As if.

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lillassea November 6 2007, 07:55:49 UTC
Yeah...

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