a social liberal group

[fine_clarity]

I have created a group for social liberals, which covers all of the social liberty

Comments

[mmoneurere]

The community profile does include economics, though. Universality of wage labor and the statist model of real estate aren't things I'd consider social values.

[fine_clarity]

Notice to third parties:
The only place that mentions wage and real estate is the sentence about youth rights, which mentions the economic rights that adults have. That is obviously based upon the economic system of the status quo, not economic ideology.

[mmoneurere]

The status quo is ideological. Though yeah, in context it's a fairly minor point.

[nsingman]

Very interesting, overall, and I could support almost all of it. However, this item concerned me a bit:

"support prosecuting the libellous [sic] use of the word 'predator' to describe people that seek out consensual sex acts"

I don't like libel or slander, but supporting their prosecution has always struck me as a free speech violation.

[fine_clarity]

What if prosecution were limited to such cases of libel that were deliberately broadcast over major media, and especially authoritative sources such as television news shows and newspaper articles -since those are the most deliberately malicious ways that the libel is used. Would you support prosecution then?

[nsingman]

Probably not. I can support prosecution for lying under oath in a criminal trial. Outside the courtroom, however, a judicious listener ought to be aware that anyone may be lying and listen and judge accordingly. A civil suit might be acceptable in certain circumstances, but not a criminal case.

In the matter at hand, I would support a zealous letter writing, phone or email campaign raising objections to the use of the word "predator" to describe people seeking consensual sex. However, prosecution for a speech or publishing "offense" bothers me too much, even if the offensive comments or lies were knowingly blasted across FNC, CNN, MSNBC and the networks.