Raise Your Hand if You're Sick To Death of Primary Season

May 07, 2008 13:45

This race has gone on too long:
The only thing becoming clear is that the contest had gone on too long. So say 58 percent of Republicans, 56 percent of independents, and fully 67 percent of Democrats, according to a Fox News poll.

Apparently the pundits have declared the race overI wish I could call Hillary up personally and beg her to get out of ( Read more... )

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aishia May 7 2008, 17:53:34 UTC
I respectively disagree. And I think Hillary should stay in the race for however long she wants. Surely ensuring that democrats get behind one candidate naturally will be better for the party than having to back someone just because your candidate was forced out?

Furthermore, the more Hillary keeps winning - and NC excluded, she has been doing rather well - the less I feel like jumping ship. Which considering Hillary was not my first choice, it says a considerable deal about Obama that I haven't yet. If anything, I wish I could be an Obama fan in good conscious... but unless the party decides to come down hard on his side... it is unlikely. :/

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koljeff May 7 2008, 18:16:14 UTC
*respectfully
*conscience

Hillary hasn't been winning - she's been losing, and losing very consistenly. She lost in Indiana, she lost in Pennsylvania - there's a certain percentage of votes she needs to get in every state to overtake Obama, and every time she falls short the bar gets higher for next time. A week ago, if you spotted her 60% of the superdelegates (which seems overgenerous, but hey), she'd have needed to win every remaining state with like 58% of the vote. Even if she had won in North Carolina, she still only won Indiana with 51%, which is less than she needed to catch up - and now I'm not 100% sure how the numbers work out, but she essentially needs to ABSOLUTELY CRUSH HIM in EVERY REMAINING STATE to stand a chance.

And every time she barely ekes out a victory over him, that will mean even more catching up she has to do next time. And frankly there just aren't enough next times left.

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snolan May 7 2008, 18:39:08 UTC
but every time she loses a state, she also makes us carefully count that state's voters and voter registrations are up

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antigenerique May 7 2008, 18:57:58 UTC
She *barely* won in Indiana because the Republicans were going to the polls, taking a Dem. ticket, and voting for her because (and I quote some chick on the TV news last night), "Republicans feel they have a better chance at beating Hilary than they do Obama."

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ext_4728 May 7 2008, 18:04:34 UTC
I'd have to agree with you. The longer we drag this out, the more McCain can conserve his resources and work at solidifying what base he has. The reason why I support Obama over Clinton is irrelevant to my fervent belief that the infighting is killing us slowly but surely.

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witch_wolf May 7 2008, 18:12:38 UTC
I disagree that she should get out of the race. This is a democracy, not everyone has voted yet. The problem is not with the voters it's the democratic party, it's their rules that have screwed up this race, no one is to blame except those who created horrible overly complicated rules ( ... )

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koljeff May 7 2008, 18:19:03 UTC
Wow, good call! Because definitely, whether or not you like Obama, it's absolutely certain that he would be exactly as good a president as McCain.

Frankly, if Hillary somehow pulls this one out of her ass - and I don't think it's even remotely possible for her to do so at this point; there's just not enough time - I will probably vote for her in November. Regardless of how I vote, I will do so unhappily, and my vote will be cast on the basis of who I feel will do the least damage to the country.

If you'd rather pat yourself on the back with your empty gesture than try to prevent McCain from gaining power and fucking up the nation worse than it already is, you can pretty much get the hell out.

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witch_wolf May 7 2008, 18:37:52 UTC
Who is patting who on the back? Sorry I will not vote for someone that I have little faith in and who I think will mess up the country .. Both Mccain and Obama IMHO will fuck up the country just as equally.

I will not vote for the lesser of two evils, it's throwing my vote away, IMHO.

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koljeff May 7 2008, 19:00:45 UTC
You - and yourself. "Oh, look at me, I'm self-righteouser than thou. Look at me standing on principle and refusing to pursue the good of the country as a whole."

1. If you think Obama could ever be as bad for the nation as John "100 Years" McCain, you're living in a dream-world - or you're thinking of a different Barack Obama.
2. Voting for the lesser of two evils isn't throwing your vote away; it's voting against the greater of two evils. You know what is throwing your vote away? Refusing to use it.

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luna_k May 7 2008, 18:18:30 UTC
It's not forcing her out, it's saying that if she cares at all about her party winning in November, she'll get out of the race.

I wholeheartedly agree.

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kimbari May 7 2008, 19:02:44 UTC
IAWTC

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psyrah May 7 2008, 22:02:14 UTC
Exactly.

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photosinensis May 7 2008, 18:19:00 UTC
I'm sick of Hillary. I think she should drop out of the race now to save face. At the very least, I'd drop out now if I were her. There's no way she can win the race based solely on the pledged delegates, which would necessitate a negotiated convention, which nobody wants.

That said, let her run herself into the ground if she must.

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