Did you know that you can 100% legally get & run WordPerfect for free?

Jun 15, 2021 01:20

In fact, there are two free versions: one for Classic MacOS, made freeware when WordPerfect discontinued Mac support, and a native Linux version, for which Corel offered a free, fully-working, demo version ( Read more... )

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On the Subject of Who Uses Wordperfect anonymous June 15 2021, 00:57:58 UTC
I don't remember where exactly I came across it, maybe something to do with MS Words internal file structure but one of the main users of Wordperfect is lawyers https://dfarq.homeip.net/still-uses-wordperfect/ No idea how versioning and stuff gets handled but in case you're curious about the modern market.

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Re: On the Subject of Who Uses Wordperfect liam_on_linux June 15 2021, 13:18:26 UTC
Oh yes indeed ( ... )

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Re: On the Subject of Who Uses Wordperfect anonymous June 15 2021, 21:19:26 UTC
"Reveal Codes".

WordPerfect's document model was something kind of like HTML2. It had text, with markup in-line with the text that changed its appearance, or marked something as a list or a header or a table or whatever. Word's document model was: text, all the text. Then, out-of-line, some formatting directives that said, do this to this region, do that to that region.

Word's model was in some ways more advanced, and better for letting you do things like globally change document style with a click after the whole thing was written. But sometimes you got into a state where everything was totally wonky and you just wanted to restore some semblance of normality to your document. In Word that could be really frustrating. In WordPerfect you just enabled "Reveal Codes" and it would show you all of that (ordinarily invisible) markup. Then you looked for something unexpected near the place where things started to go wonky, selected it, hit Delete, turned Reveal Codes back off... and everything was great!

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Re: On the Subject of Who Uses Wordperfect liam_on_linux June 15 2021, 21:30:52 UTC
Absolutely, yes. For many people, the big win.

I got very used to the MS Word model -- I was training people on it back when Word 4 for DOS was current. It's far from ideal but I know how to coax it into doing nice things -- for instance, in my CV, I have lines that contain both left-justified *and* right-justified text, or even some centred text in between. This is just showing off, really, and 0.01% of people reading it will spot what I've done, but those who've fought Word and lost might be impressed.

Word is somewhere between a word-processor and a basic DTP app, and as such it falls between two stools. Whereas WP was, arguably, the greatest WP ever written.

I think that arguably the greatest pure-text editor ever was and is probably Emacs. I like Neal Stephenson's summary:
I use emacs, which might be thought of as a thermonuclear word processor. It was created by Richard Stallman; enough said. It is written in Lisp, which is the only computer language that is beautiful. It is colossal, and yet it only edits straight ASCII text ( ... )

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waistcoatmark June 15 2021, 19:47:35 UTC
My memory of MS word (for DOS) was a huge amount of wasted space, with thick borders around the text view and an.onscreen.text.display.which.looked.like.this¶
It.was.awful¶

The screenshots in your review don't look as bad, so presumably the version I used was earlier.

Word perfect in contrast, while not exactly ugly, did at least display spaces as actual whitespace, and was renowned for showing as much text as possible on the screen at once. No wasteful borders there. The reviews of WP for Windows were awful, but I never got to experience that. Just various MS Word and Lotus's Ami Pro (which came free with my 486)

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liam_on_linux June 15 2021, 20:47:16 UTC
> My memory of MS word (for DOS) was a huge amount of wasted space, with thick borders around
> the text view

Well, kinda, yes. But it supported 25-line, 43-line and 50-line text modes, and a bunch of graphics modes which could show bold, italics, underline and combinations thereof. Which was nice ( ... )

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waistcoatmark June 16 2021, 07:21:00 UTC
That's an option and it's off by default. View | Show formatting or something like that.

Ah makes sense. I didn't really want to mess around too much because as a sponsored student (roughly equivalent to an intern today) we weren't really meant to be using word processors. We were meant to write it in pen and paper and pass it to the typing pool to be typed up. Now there's a term I've not used in years :-)

The senior managers didn't care that as a student, our job would be lowest priority, and they couldn't understand that (soon-to-be-) scientists could type faster than they could write, or that editing and moving text around made it made the end result read better. Fortunately they weren't around much and the lower ranked managers were a bit more with the times.

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liam_on_linux June 16 2021, 14:36:43 UTC
Fair.

This is part of the problem: Word tries to be all things to all people and the result is a bit of a mess.

WordPerfect is a scalpel to a Swiss army knife, by comparison.

I wonder what image "typing pool" conjures to the average millennial?


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Uhh... No anonymous October 16 2021, 10:02:19 UTC
The reason Corel Abandoned the Linux stuff is because they almost went bankrupt pursuing it. This happened to a lot of companies. Borland lost a ton of money focusing on Linux (Kylix, C++Builder X, etc.) as well. Lots of companies hopped on the Linux bandwagon early hoping to capitalize, but there wasn't really a market for commercial software. The hype around Linux was mostly circulating around Open Source, and people didn't want to pay hundreds for an Office Suite or IDE ( ... )

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Re: Uhh... No liam_on_linux October 27 2021, 14:34:38 UTC
Thanks for the comment ( ... )

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Re: Uhh... No liam_on_linux October 27 2021, 14:48:19 UTC
As for Microsoft bailing out Corel: I want to see some kind of evidence for this ( ... )

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Re: Uhh... No romanticboy February 12 2024, 20:20:35 UTC
Corporations still suffer from the hidden msft office tax.

Most use one or two applications. But they (especially medium to large) are paying for all of them, and paying each year.

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Appimage anonymous December 2 2021, 16:53:54 UTC
This is a great usage of Appimage/flatpak/snap.

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Re: Appimage liam_on_linux December 3 2021, 11:27:44 UTC
Yes, I agree, it would be. Sadly I lack the skills to do it.

Since there won't be any more updates, barring a remarkable _volte face_ from Corel, an AppImage might be easiest.

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