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More about Scion...

Mar 09, 2011 11:19

This is a quote from the episode recap up at TWoP:

"...she [Lois] asks how Lex created Conner without Clark knowing about it. Clark mentions the blood sample Helen Bryce took from him and that Lex later stole."

Okay, now that would have been in the, what? Third season? ...[Second season. Fever]... IIRC, didn't Lex return the blood sample tube to ( Read more... )

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littlehollyleaf March 9 2011, 20:32:15 UTC

Wait, are we talking about the blood sample that Helen later gave to Lionel and which, IIRC, ultimately ended up with Morgan Edge when he got RedK!Clark to steal it from Lionel's vault during Clark's summer in Metropolis?

Wtf?

complicat March 9 2011, 21:27:55 UTC

I think there were two blood samples - just checking my notes (I have notes! I need a life!) it says the blood sample first appeared in Fever, then later that season in Calling Lex mysteriously has it, and in Exodus he tells Helen he stole it and (IIRC) gives it back to her.

Then in Phoenix Edge is after the blood sample but I think Clark doesn't give him the original one, he has to take some green K to his arm and make a new sample for him (because he destroyed the first sample? Or did it go somewhere else?). Then in Resurrection the (presumably second) sample is being used to revive the dead (by Lionel? Who got it from Edge? I can't remember).

I don't remember where it went after Resurrection, if it survived at all.

And then there was a big retcon and in summary Lex is EVOL! See?

greenlady2 March 9 2011, 21:31:37 UTC

Oh. Okay. That's much, MUCH clearer!

Tearing my hair out now. AAAARGH!

But Clark blames it all on LEX???!!!

littlehollyleaf March 9 2011, 22:10:04 UTC

in Phoenix Edge is after the blood sample but I think Clark doesn't give him the original one, he has to take some green K to his arm and make a new sample for him (because he destroyed the first sample? Or did it go somewhere else?)Yus, I remember now! Clark steals it from Lionel for Edge, but that sample gets destroyed somehow - poss Jonathan arrives to de-RedK Clark AS he's stealing the sample and they then destroy it together. HOWEVER, after that Lionel learns Edge tried to steal from him and demands the sample back or else. Edge then threatens Jon and Martha in order to get Clark to give the sample back and Clark, being the dumbass he is, cuts a new sample out of himself in front of Edge because the original is no longer available ( ... )

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re the clones seagull2eagle March 9 2011, 23:34:40 UTC

Lionel was already making clones in Season Two -- Emily was when we were first introduced to them, and it was Lionel all the way -- actually shown and told in that episode that Lionel was behind it. Lex was in no way involved, though Lex did find Lionel's cleaned-out workshop afterwards, I believe.

Re: re the clones greenlady2 March 11 2011, 01:36:47 UTC

Well, now it seems it was Lex all the time. All that stuff with Helen and Lionel were part of his manipulative plan to look innocent so everyone on the show would love him and trust him. :-)))

dogwoodblossom March 10 2011, 02:14:13 UTC

Poor ickle Connor. It's always a giant blame game to figure out whose fault it is that he exists.

dogwoodblossom March 10 2011, 02:15:41 UTC

At least Tim loves him.

greenlady2 March 11 2011, 01:37:34 UTC

Yeah. :-)

an0ther_dreamer March 11 2011, 01:23:12 UTC

I honestly can't follow this wtfery anymore. They've retconned so many times they've canabalised themselves.

greenlady2 March 11 2011, 01:35:24 UTC

Yeah, really. Most TV shows do some retconning, but this show makes NO sense any more, and hasn't for years.

Lex needs that Death Ray, and I'll be on his side if he wipes out the entire cast in the last episode. :-)))

acampbell March 15 2011, 00:01:53 UTC

Yeah, we never did find out what was going on with Helen and Lionel. One of the famous No Payoffs of the show. She appeared to be working with him but still claimed to love Lex. Then after his death she's suddenly shopping and we find she was complicit in the plane crash. We never hear what happened to her, which is okay, because it's implied it wasn't good. But we never find out what the real deal is with her. And they never went back to it, which, from this vantage point, is certainly not surprising.

She wound up being pretty much a two-dimensional bitch at the end, but there was more going on with her than that, earlier.