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leobrat

She Is The Best Thing That's Ever Been Mine

Mar 10, 2011 12:55

Hey chickens. Haven't had much to post about in a couple of days, and I find that my face looks much more like this :/ when I have no comments to look forward to. :/ I've been kind of down lately, but it's not for any specific reason, so I kind of feel like I'm just whining if I'm posting just to be like, I'm Sad, or whatever, because I have no ( Read more... )

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lapiccolina March 10 2011, 18:12:50 UTC

Just wanted to give you a :hug:

I'm not much of a writer. I haven't written very much, but I do think that I guess it depends on how my plot on whether or not I'd have a character go out of character.

Yet, I love happy endings.

So the real answer is, I don't know.

leobrat March 10 2011, 18:17:41 UTC

Thanks miss. :)

distant_lines March 10 2011, 19:47:44 UTC

I think a character being OOC really comes down to how each person views the character. Everyone is going to see different aspects of a character that someone else might not see; we're not all going to see every character the same way. Like, we've discussed I'm a Sam fan for GH, and you used to be a huge Liz fan, so we might both have completely different views on what OOC is for that character. So, I guess where I stand is that I would never intentionally make a character OOC for the purpose of a story, though I'm sure I've accidentally done it before, but I'm sure other people that have read different stories of mine might think that I've completely made a character OOC ( ... )

leobrat March 11 2011, 01:23:52 UTC

I guess the question is...would you ignore something that you know your character wouldn't do, if you need it to further the story? Is it a question of scale? For instance, we'll take Sam and Liz. Now without, preferring one over another, it would be completely out of character for Liz to punch Sam out. Like, she just does not get physically violent (and I've seen the like in GH fics where Liz is caricaturized as The Bitch- which is warranted sometimes but not that way). Anyway ( ... )

distant_lines March 11 2011, 03:45:46 UTC

I don't know if I could ignore something that I knew my character wouldn't do. I feel like I put so much into my stories, that I'd feel like I was just taking the easy way out. I know that I usually have 3 people read my stuff in regards to Jason and Sam before I post it. I like to get very thorough input about whether they think one of the characters in my story would do something ( ... )

leobrat March 13 2011, 00:44:37 UTC

I know that I usually have 3 people read my stuff in regards to Jason and Sam before I post it.

That's another little pitfall of mine- I've gotten pretty used to just posting without a beta (half the time because I don't want to bother anyone), and it really is pretty necessary to get a second pair of eyes on it. I've been better about this lately because I've been writing in newer fandoms where I'm not as comfortable, but in my 'oldies'...well, also there were a given 2 or 3 people who would be interested in that particular character and it seemed silly to get betas.

hope27 March 11 2011, 00:59:02 UTC

Oh, what an interesting question. I know how you've fought this with Billy/Veronica.

Keeping characters in-character is always something I try to do when I'm writing, but I feel like sometimes even a little thing can be big to someone else. I can think it would be in-character for a person to do something while someone else would think it's completely OOC. I think in certain fandoms, certain characters are far more set in stone than others, and this can make it harder or easier depending on the character. (Did that make any sense?)

But when you are dealing with non-canon couples, I feel like you have a little more leeway in how you write them. For instance, in your Billy/Veronica-verse. The way you've written them are taking them in different directions from the show because different things have happened to them. I feel like you are still keeping their core personalities but with a different spin because things are different for them. Circumstances do effect the way people behave. If Lily had never died, Veronica would ( ... )

leobrat March 11 2011, 01:29:56 UTC

I remember I wrote a 5-things Logan fic a long time ago, on a dare, on just five bad things he would do. Some people (even Logan fans) commended me for it, saying it was perfectly in character, others said I had completely run off in my own mind. It's mostly subjective but there are certain lines that you just *know*, though I think. For instance, I think it would be completely out of character to write Logan as racist (classist yes, but racist no).

The thing with my B/V story is I feel like I *have* cheated my way towards happiness with them and haven't written enough of how they got there, because you know it just would not be an easy road. You and I have talked about it forever and we both know the idea so well, I think it makes sense to the two of us, but maybe wouldn't to anyone else. And that's fine, I wouldn't expect it to be a very popular concept, but I think it still all needs to be *shown*.

Thanks for the hugs miss :)

hope27 March 11 2011, 01:46:44 UTC

You and I have talked about it forever and we both know the idea so well, I think it makes sense to the two of us, but maybe wouldn't to anyone else. And that's fine, I wouldn't expect it to be a very popular concept, but I think it still all needs to be *shown*.

No, I understand. I do, and I don't mean to say that I don't think you should take your time and make sure it's to your liking, and get it to the place you want it to be.

Always welcome, hon.

torigates March 11 2011, 16:39:59 UTC

I would never purposefully write someone out of character for the sake of plot. I'm more interested in sitting two people down together in a room or whatever and seeing how they would interact together. But for me, I'm not really a "plot" writer, you know? I don't have long drawn out stories where a lot of "stuff" happens. I'm more about having characters talk about stuff and their emotions and then makeout, lol.

In terms of "cheating" well... IDK. I think if you want to write characters together being happy and fluffy then go for it! I'm not sure that has to be earned in fanfic as much as it does/should be in a show or novel, etc. On the other side of that, personally I'm not too interested in reading out of the blue established fics, even for characters I really, really ship. IDK why.

leobrat March 13 2011, 13:30:40 UTC

I'm not an all-fluff, all-the-time kind of gal really either, and when I do write fluff, it's usually a quick, couple-hundred words kind of shot.

And for me...well, I mean I guess I don't really think in terms of 'plot' like...I want to write a cowboy caper and then go do that. But like, I guess most of my ideas come from quick snatches of dialogue and then I write myself into a corner trying to get these people to that point. Make any sense?

empressearwig March 12 2011, 14:32:25 UTC

We've talked about this some before, and given that I will not read what I perceive to be OOC fic, I'd be a pretty big hypocrite if I ever consciously wrote it, you know? What's interesting, though, is that I think that I'm more concerned about the characters I don't like being in character than the ones that I do. Like, when I was still writing GH fic, I was always so careful to try to write Elizabeth in a way that both worked for me (someone who didn't ever like her) and for you (someone that did). In the end, I think all of my fic comes down to elaborate character studies anyway, just trying to figure out who these people are and what that means they'll do ( ... )

leobrat March 13 2011, 13:42:55 UTC

Haha, you know what? You are a closeted plotter. You are always saying how you don't write plot but you have come up with some of the most intricate, wonderful, tight plots and story arcs I've ever seen/read. You are a plotter, Miss, like it or not ( ... )

empressearwig March 13 2011, 14:02:15 UTC

But that's soap plot. That's different. My brain works along those lines. It doesn't work along the lines of, say, writing a potential end to this season of TVD.

Hey, half of my stories are inspired by songs, so I personally think that basing them on snippets of dialogue is more rational. And I would read that fic if you wrote it. Maybe sometime right after Janessa leaves and Spencer's more than a little drunk and Nikolas finds him and Spencer says that he never wanted to be like his father? Idk.

Well, I think part of that is the people you've chosen to write RPF about. John is such a pessimist that if there's not some of that, it might feel wrong. But Taylor's such a bright character that you could write something happier and it wouldn't feel wrong either.

leobrat March 13 2011, 14:34:54 UTC

It's not just the TNG verse, though. I'd say by the large, 'stuff happens' in your fics. People go places, do things. It's not just two people sitting and having a conversation usually. (Those kinds of fics are quite lovely too, though.)

There's many instances where that bit between Nikolas and Spencer would come up (I also thought of while Janessa is pregnant), but that particular fic is still probably a ways off. If I were to go back to TNG, I feel like I would have to start with one of the 'kid fics' (which...kind of a lot of shit happened before everyone was ten years old so it's not like it would be all Easter bunnies).