awwww, everyone. If I were going to make a list of underappreciated BSG episodes, this would definitely be toward the top. I think it was so honest, the toll all the general misery was taking on these personal relationships they were all trying to build. That said, UGH, that scene in the bar with Tyrol is a million times worse after seeing the finale.
I think it was so honest, the toll all the general misery was taking on these personal relationships they were all trying to build.
I was thinking this same thing when this popped up this morning. There's something oddly fascinating and kind of courageous about showing relationships not working but having the relationships continue. As much as it drives me crazy that so many characters present and continue to live unhappy, dishonest relationship, it's an interesting and believable approach.
I mean, it's super frustrating when Lee chooses not to end their marriages when we know that they're only married to Sam and Dee because they were running away from each other, but I have to appreciate how well-acted it is, and that the final straw for Dee to ultimately leave him wasn't Kara, it was rooted in Lee's own personality and principles (the trial, and putting Laura on the stand)
it's super frustrating when Lee chooses not to end their marriages when we know that they're only married to Sam and Dee because they were running away from each other
I have to say, this "we" definitely doesn't include me; I think Kara/Sam and Lee/Dee are really interesting and compelling partnerships in their own right. My point was more along the lines that even people who are in a no-doubts, you-are-the-other-half-of-my-soul kind of marriage would still be struggling under these extraordinary circumstances; would even be difficult under the bizarre social structure of Galactica. And I feel like they're maybe even intensifying the interpersonal drama in order to distract themselves from the high-pressure grind. There's a lot going on there, and it manifested in some ways that struck me as really realistic - unflattering, maybe, but I am very sympathetic to all four of them throughout.
Hmmm. I don't think it's marriage; all your relationships were already screwed up before that point, guys.
PS - random question: does anyone have any recs for an awesome married couple portrayed on TV? The only one I can think of is Zoe and Wash on Firefly, and since there were only like 10 episodes we really didn't get to watch any long-term relationship there. Any other ideas? :)
I have many thoughts on you random question, although maybe not a lot of answers... ;)
I've heard good things about the coach and his wife on Friday Night Lights and the couples on Parenthood lean in that direction. Both are more realistic dramas though which I find a might tedious.
The show Chuck has some pretty good long term, more believable couples. I enjoyed Chuck quite a bit, good fun, spy drama.
I do wish TV portrayed more couples in long term relationships or even just couples who acted like they wanted to be in the relationship they're in most of the time. I think the journey of a couple working on being a couple could make compelling TV in the right hands. (I've always thought Lee and Kara or their type would have been good for that.)
This is a huge TV pet peeve of mine actually. I think it starts to wear away at the credibility of relationships in real life. I'll try to think of more and come back if I do.
Thanks so much for your suggestions, Chuck especially sounds cool. Much appreciated!
I do wish TV portrayed more couples in long term relationships or even just couples who acted like they wanted to be in the relationship they're in most of the time.
This entire episode just makes me want to reach out and choke Lee sometimes, and choke Chief the other times.
It's really ironic that of all the people Lee and Kara ever asked for advice about their relationship, they chose Tigh and Chief- both of whom were hung up forever on women they couldn't get over (and the bar scene makes me even more bitter in hindsight after STWOM/Daybreak)......but Chief lied and said he'd got over Sharon, while Tigh advised Kara to abandon Lee so she wouldn't have to risk losing him to war.
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I was thinking this same thing when this popped up this morning. There's something oddly fascinating and kind of courageous about showing relationships not working but having the relationships continue. As much as it drives me crazy that so many characters present and continue to live unhappy, dishonest relationship, it's an interesting and believable approach.
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I mean, it's super frustrating when Lee chooses not to end their marriages when we know that they're only married to Sam and Dee because they were running away from each other, but I have to appreciate how well-acted it is, and that the final straw for Dee to ultimately leave him wasn't Kara, it was rooted in Lee's own personality and principles (the trial, and putting Laura on the stand)
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I have to say, this "we" definitely doesn't include me; I think Kara/Sam and Lee/Dee are really interesting and compelling partnerships in their own right. My point was more along the lines that even people who are in a no-doubts, you-are-the-other-half-of-my-soul kind of marriage would still be struggling under these extraordinary circumstances; would even be difficult under the bizarre social structure of Galactica. And I feel like they're maybe even intensifying the interpersonal drama in order to distract themselves from the high-pressure grind. There's a lot going on there, and it manifested in some ways that struck me as really realistic - unflattering, maybe, but I am very sympathetic to all four of them throughout.
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PS - random question: does anyone have any recs for an awesome married couple portrayed on TV? The only one I can think of is Zoe and Wash on Firefly, and since there were only like 10 episodes we really didn't get to watch any long-term relationship there. Any other ideas? :)
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I've heard good things about the coach and his wife on Friday Night Lights and the couples on Parenthood lean in that direction. Both are more realistic dramas though which I find a might tedious.
The show Chuck has some pretty good long term, more believable couples. I enjoyed Chuck quite a bit, good fun, spy drama.
I do wish TV portrayed more couples in long term relationships or even just couples who acted like they wanted to be in the relationship they're in most of the time. I think the journey of a couple working on being a couple could make compelling TV in the right hands. (I've always thought Lee and Kara or their type would have been good for that.)
This is a huge TV pet peeve of mine actually. I think it starts to wear away at the credibility of relationships in real life. I'll try to think of more and come back if I do.
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I do wish TV portrayed more couples in long term relationships or even just couples who acted like they wanted to be in the relationship they're in most of the time.
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It's really ironic that of all the people Lee and Kara ever asked for advice about their relationship, they chose Tigh and Chief- both of whom were hung up forever on women they couldn't get over (and the bar scene makes me even more bitter in hindsight after STWOM/Daybreak)......but Chief lied and said he'd got over Sharon, while Tigh advised Kara to abandon Lee so she wouldn't have to risk losing him to war.
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