Destroy the Entire Cylon Race

[scifishipper]

A Serious Issue:

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[rachelindeed]

Very nice to have him in fighting trim again, though he seems to have lost a few moral scruples along with the weight

[scifishipper]

His reactions here also surprise me. Of anyone on the show, it seems that Lee is able to consider the morally ambiguous nature of their relationship with the cylons. I have never been comfortable with his straightforward hatred of the cylons in this episode. He just does not seem that black and white in his moral decision-making. Despite the right and wrong discussions, I believe that they took Lee's arguments and gave them to Helo. I'm not sure what was going on behind the scenes, but it's a very strange episode in which lots of characters seem to be OOC. Helo does not usually stand up for his morality in such open ways, Adama seems strange to consider giving the cylons treatment for their illness, and Tigh is surprisingly quiet. I would have to re-watch the episode to articulate myself better here, but I generally find this episode confusing and strange. What is the point here? What is being said that was not already said, as Rachel indicates, in the Pegasus arc with Gina. For a change, I actually find the Baltar storyline to be the

[rachelindeed]

To me it is Lee who seems out of character in his stridency here, not Helo or Adama. Helo has always had a strong sense of right and wrong, and although he usually tries to reason with people rather than directly confront them, that's largely what he was doing in this episode as well -- making his plea as best he could, appealing to his leaders' humanity and reminding them to think about what they stand for the same way Athena has urged them to do in the past. And Adama has often exhibited more moral reservations about ruthless actions in defense of the fleet than Roslin has. And he's also had an ongoing dialogue about and with the Cylons regarding the relative responsibilities of humanity toward them -- starting with the "we can't deny responsibility for what we've done" speech in the miniseries, through his anguished "Why?" to Boomer's body, to his growing dialogue with Sharon through the Resurrection Ship arc and the Occupation/Precipice arc. He often initially goes along with Roslin's more ruthless plans but is then relieved

[scifishipper]

Thanks for the quotes. I am also glad that they abandoned that storyline. Lee's questioning nature is so wonderful - part of the reason why he is not a stereotypical action hero. The Marine arc would have certainly pushed him in the direction of a flat, mercenary-type hero. That would have been very disappointing.

[kag523]

Okay - first I just have to say Rachel is brilliant. And if I ever have to go to court (again) I'm totally making her come along, because I am not nearly as eloquent as she is.

Second - I actually quite love the grey moral ground question. I think it is one of the best aspects of BSG because you could argue any side of it, and make a reasonable argument. I love that!

Third - I think Helo is a Star Trek character who woke up in BSG by accident. I love Helo, of course, but his blind willingness to see the "good" in all situations, is actually surprisingly non-BSG in nature.

*grins*

Fourth - FRAK I LOVE THAT T-SHIRT. *blinks*

[kdbleu]

Just here for the pretty.

No deep thoughts. Only black t-shirts.

*giggles*