1. the bad glazier

Dec 23, 2004 09:50



Il n’existe que trois êtres respectables :
    Le prêtre, le guerrier, le poète. Savoir, tuer et créer.
    Les autres hommes sont taillables et corvéables, faits pour l’écurie, c’est-à-dire pour exercer ce qu’on appelle des professions.
    - Charles Baudelaire, Mon cœur mis à nu

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translation, rhetoric, violence, poetry, baudelaire, french

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andthro_femme May 6 2006, 21:56:51 UTC
Salve!,

I really enjoyed reading through your text. (You should take a closer look at Les Paradis Artificieles); I´ve always found that it is spacially "supercharged" in a philosophical sense; noone seems to dedicate more attention to this piece of charles tho.
I´d apperciate if you´d post your work (specially thosye about baudelaire and mallarmé) at les_nerfs, I think it could be at some individuals interest there.

Thank You

(...I´ll read your text(s) more accurately as soon as I can take some more time, so that I can take a stand to this or that)

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larvatus May 6 2006, 23:49:26 UTC
Thanks very much for your kind words. I am certainly taking a closer look at Les paradis artificiels. In the 1993 thesis that serves as the basis of this work, I contented myself with using Thomas de Quincey’s notion of the palimpsest of memory, as the means for explaining the notion of infinity exploited in the final question (ἐρώτημα) that is commonly taken as an emblem of resistance to interpretative closure. To the contrary, I take it as a sound and adequate Cartesian response to the argument of Pascal’s Wager. As many a respondent to Romanticism, Baudelaire was a clandestine rationalist. I shall post the results both here and in your fine community, as soon as I can process the relevant literature, both recently published (The Cambridge Companion to Baudelaire) and previously overlooked (G.T. Clapton, Baudelaire et De Quincey). This matter really calls for writing grants and writer’s assistants. Got any leads?

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andthro_femme May 13 2006, 19:36:17 UTC
pardon me, I was busy for a while ;)

as for the older research the younger authors consider the decadents as not only a result of the romantic world-view, but also as directly dependent form it... I´d say, as every modernist movement, the decedents may be in fact a result of romantic individualist attitude, even in an excessively overexcited way, following totally contrary "values", but they´re still not dependent from it´s intent a farer sense.

--what exactly do you mean when you call charles a "clandestine rationalist"? this is an unknown term to me. makes me curious, cause from my point of view rationalism/naturalism is def. what most decadent made mental rebellion against.

(& please do post your disquitions on decadent themes at les_nerfs in the future, simply post the text twice to both sites when updating your journal) ;)

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larvatus May 15 2006, 08:10:32 UTC
Thanks again for your kind attention to my text. I am not terribly concerned about falling in lockstep with other authors, be they younger or older. On the other hand, I am always happy to attend to good counsel.
    First off, I should qualify any attribution of -isms. Paul Valéry put it best:Il est impossible de penser ― sérieusement ― avec des mots comme Classicisme, Romantisme, Humanisme, Réalisme…
On ne s’enivre ni se désaltère avec des étiquettes de bouteilles.
I think the same goes for attributions of decadence. As for Baudelaire in his relations with nature, he follows Delacroix in regarding her as only a dictionary, but by the same token, no less than a dictionary. Thus also Pascal: there are perfections in nature to show that she is the image of God, and imperfections to show that she is no more than his image (Pensées §934/580 Lafuma/Brunschvicg). Further, Romantic poetry has been infected with the desire to represent itself as philosophy at least since Shelley and Lamartine translated and versified Socratic dialogues. ( ... )

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Ce puits anonymous September 20 2009, 12:16:04 UTC
tres intiresno, merci

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