let the gun ban games begin

[larvatus]

I deny any predictability in politics, but there are many hurdles on the way to enacting any new Federal gun control laws:

1. Economics: we have enough guns to arm each American citizen, resident alien, and illegal immigrant. Confiscation without compensation is politically impossible, whereas confiscation with compensation would be economically

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My perspective on RKBA both historically and philosophically #1

[hyok_kim]

"1.Economics: we have enough guns to arm each American

Re: My perspective on RKBA both historically and philosophically #1

[larvatus]

Some of the very same people are but a proper subset of all of them.

Re: My perspective on RKBA both historically and philosophically #1

[hyok_kim]

"Some of the very same people are but a proper subset of all of them."

I don't see supporters of Obama clamoring for the round up of all 'muslims', 'arabs', or anyone in sympathy with them.

My perspective on RKBA #2

[hyok_kim]

"4.Stupidity: no idea is so sensible that our political

debate cannot dumb it down fatally, and will not do so

inevitably."

Dear Zeleny, arn't you the person who said, "Never get close enough to Goats to test their logic."?

You've been to enough gun forums. What do you think of the quality of the debate overall? Btw. Calguns is not even the worst of the lot. At least one gun forum eliminated political, even RKBA stuff discussion, because of they were patently embarrassed of the quality of the discussion.

Others try very hard to steer clear of political discussions. These are the people supposedly on the 'right' side of a 'good' fight.

"Ideas most likely to elicit a consensus, such as criminal

liability for unsafe storage of firearms, can and will be

reduced to prospective measures repugnant to most gun

owners, even as they remain inadequate to most nanny

staters."

Well, as far as I see, Anti-RKBA are going for semi-auto guns descended from Assault rifles, and mag with more than 10 shot capacity.

Re: My perspective on RKBA #2

[larvatus]

I mean stupidity in a technical sense: “A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.” It’s not clear to me that a large fraction of online debates qualifies as such.

Re: My perspective on RKBA #2

[hyok_kim]

"I mean stupidity in a technical sense: “A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.”"

So you do agree with Pareto. What you just described above is basically 'Paretian Optimal'.

"It’s not clear to me that a large fraction of online debates qualifies as such."

Another way of saying the same thing is it is clear to me that only a small fraction of online debates doesn't qualify clearly as stupid in a technical sense.

My perspective on RKBA #3

[hyok_kim]

"That said, the Gun Ban Games will be loads of fun to live

Re: My perspective on RKBA #3

[larvatus]

As one right-winger observed, every nation has the government it deserves. Our just deserts are about to be discovered.

Re: My perspective on RKBA #3

[hyok_kim]

"As one right-winger observed, every nation has the government it deserves."

Indeed.

"Our just deserts are about to be discovered."

Wouldn't it have been nice if we had a better alternative than Romney, who ensured Obama victory by pandering to all the crazys out there?