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[ladyqkat]

I did not go looking for this, but I stumbled upon it whilst noodling around elsewhere. Yet another reason why religious nuts should not be allowed to dictate what goes on in any woman's womb.

Since not many folks read me, I will allow comments unless they get trollish and abusive. And I have a very short fuse.

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[bkwrrm_tx]

THIS. This is why I find people who are 'all abortion is murder/bad/sends you to Hell/etc' so damned frustrating! Fine. YOU don't want an abortion? If you're female, don't have one. If you're male, make sure you never, ever are in a position to cause someone to become pregnant and it isn't an issue.

But keep your damned hands and values OFF MY BODY.

/off soapbox, but keeping the damned thing close, just in case/

[paradigm_clutch]

The mother wanted an induction, not abortion. She wanted the baby to be born, but the docs didn't listen due to the whole stupidity of the Neb law.

There are certain times when abortion is needed. There are times when it is wanted. There is a diff between those. A woman should have the right to choose.

Those women who use abortion as a birth control...I find that wrong. There are myriad ways of preventing conception. Use them. Same for men.

Gov't and such should not have the right to tell women what to do about their bodies. It's their body, and sometimes drastic measures such as abortion must be considered. It's the woman, and man if she has one, who should decide.

Meh...

[ladyqkat]

In spite of what the Radical Religious Right would have us believe, 98% (more or less) of the women who do seek abortions are not using it for birth control, per se. The RRR pushes their agenda on the myth that women would use abortion exclusively for birth control.

Before Roe v. Wade, my mother had an abortion because of her age and circumstances that would not support a child emotionally. She had to jump through hoops you would not believe. Three psychiatrists had to confirm she would be actively suicidal if she had to carry the child to term.

My folks tried to shield me from this, but I was persistant in finding out why my mother nearly died on the operating table. No, it was not a bad job, her body just could not take the stress that the procedure put on it. Carrying to term would have been much worse for her, let alone the family.

Yes, I do support informed choice. Not allowing a choice is, to me, the bigger sin because that makes free will (which is touted by the Abrahamic religions) a sham.

[jaxomsride]

So much for the Hippocratic oath.
I hope she takes the State of Nebraska and the hospital to court for the unnecessary suffering their interpretation of the law caused her daughter.

[awalker1829]

Sounds like an unfortunate situation where the hospital's interpretation and patient's interpretation of the law differed. There's a big difference in what a law says in the books and what the case law says about how a law must be applied or interpreted (if that is even allowable). Would taking the state and hospital to court make a difference? I would hope so, but being realistic, I must say probably not. The state would defend in that case and move for dismissal or settlement with no admission of guilt.

Re: Your Milage May Vary/My 2 Cents:

[ladyqkat]

Your opinion is both valued and sane.

Unfortunately, those who want to have absolute control set the fighting arena in the religious sector and it was allowed to stay there by those who think they might benefit. So those of us who know that it is about control are hampered by what is perceived.

I am, and have been, very lucky to know men such as you and sordak and a few others who do not see their masculinity in jeopardy if they support everyone's right to have control over their own lives and choices.

[cleothyla]

Most of the time, things like abortion, gay rights and other progressive ideas are mostly political footballs that people throw around.

I agree with the previous commentator. I am Pro-Choice, not Pro-Abortion. Using abortion for birth control is stupid. I actually have an acquaintence who the only reason she's around is because her mother couldn't afford an abortion and she was told this by her mother. But people are going to be stupid and I'd rather have it legal and done in a safe and sterile enviroment so maybe when the mother stops being an idiot(long shot there) she still might be able to have children.
But having abortion available for rape victims, incest victims and those women who need them to save the life of the mother, that I do believe in.

[ladyqkat]

I actually have an acquaintence who the only reason she's around is because her mother couldn't afford an abortion and she was told this by her mother.

This kind of child abuse is one reason I do not like those who are militantly anti-birth control. Yes, birth control is a preferred method, but birth control can fail.

Some states (Utah comes to mind) are proposing laws that will make even spontanious miscarriages suspect. So a woman (never a man) will be subjected to a police review if she miscarries for any reason. Men who slap their wives around and cause a miscarriage will be exonerated with the old saw that "she made him beat her up until she miscarried".

I really want to go live on Rhodenitia. It is more my brand of crazy.