This is a great review. I understood 99% of the film after my first viewing of it (the 1% being how they got to Singapore in the first place; I just assume that they had a small boat or maybe even the row boat they left on at the end of DMC), but thank you for clarifying a lot of what was going on for others who may have questions. I'll be posting a link to this post from my journal. :)
I saw that post you linked to and didn't feel like reading beyond that person's response to your comment; just as ignorance is bliss, those who didn't pay full attention when watching the film or haven't researched certain things (things Ted and Terry have said) are irking me with what comes off as their close mindedness. Of course, that may also come across as my close mindedness of their seeming close minded (though it's a review and not fic so I don't see why it would), but we won't get into that. :)
I hope that one day, Bloom will finally be appreciated as a good and dependable actor.
More than anything else in this film - this series - I have to say this strikes a chord with me. I never thought he was bad when he was starting out, but he has improved, and one can only presume if he continues on his course, he'll improve more.
very thoughtful and I quite agree (especially the Will/Orlando bits! *g*). I'll add my alternate spec about the needing a ship thing -- because yeah, they had to have a boat to get to Singapore in the first place. Maybe they were borrowing the ship from someone (Anamaria maybe?), and that other captain had NO interest to travel to the World's End, since odds were poor anyone would come back. So our Heroes were passengers to Singapore to get the charts and a ship that they could crew themselves...
And while of course Will needed the Black Pearl to catch the FD, I have to wonder how he knew the ship would ALSO be in the Locker, instead of just simply destroyed. I can see believing Jack's there (faced with Barbossa, how could they not?), but the ship? Tia told him, I guess, but it's still sort of weird to me...
It seems to me that the stories to both World's End and Dead Man's Chest can get horribly complicated at times (because there's just so much going on). And yet they're so relatively easy to follow. That requires some pretty mean storytelling skill.
I liked World's End too, but something about the story as a whole (as well as a couple details) doesn't sit well with me.
I think the movie would have been a lot better if it's predecessors had been different. If the Pirates of the Carribbean series had started as "Lord of the Rings on the seas" that would have been all right. As it is, Dead Man's chest and especially World's End deviate from the lightheartedness of Curse of the Black Pearl
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I think the movie would have been a lot better if it's predecessors had been different. If the Pirates of the Carribbean series had started as "Lord of the Rings on the seas" that would have been all right. As it is, Dead Man's chest and especially World's End deviate from the lightheartedness of Curse of the Black Pearl.
I think the world could definitely do with more good-quality "Lord of the Rings"-style movies. Even more, though, I think it could do with more good-quality Curse of the Black Pearl-style movies, and I find it a bit disappointing when a movie series jumps tracks in the middle.
I don't exactly agree with you. Turing the POTC saga into some LOTR style saga would not have served the style of the movies. Nor do I think that would have been Gore Verbinski's style. And if I must be frank, I only truly enjoyed the first LOTR movie. I'm not a big fan of the other two . . . unlike the POTC flicks.
I am a big fan Lord of the Rings, all three books and all three movies, but that's not the point.
I'm saying that they did turn World's End at least into a Lord of the Rings style saga.
What I mean is that Curse of the Black Pearl was a lighthearted general adventure story with dark overtones and intrinsic humor. World's End, on the other hand, was a dark, grim and serious battle-oriented adventure story with humorous overtones. To me, that style is reminiscent of Lord of the Rings.
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I saw that post you linked to and didn't feel like reading beyond that person's response to your comment; just as ignorance is bliss, those who didn't pay full attention when watching the film or haven't researched certain things (things Ted and Terry have said) are irking me with what comes off as their close mindedness. Of course, that may also come across as my close mindedness of their seeming close minded (though it's a review and not fic so I don't see why it would), but we won't get into that. :)
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More than anything else in this film - this series - I have to say this strikes a chord with me. I never thought he was bad when he was starting out, but he has improved, and one can only presume if he continues on his course, he'll improve more.
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And while of course Will needed the Black Pearl to catch the FD, I have to wonder how he knew the ship would ALSO be in the Locker, instead of just simply destroyed. I can see believing Jack's there (faced with Barbossa, how could they not?), but the ship? Tia told him, I guess, but it's still sort of weird to me...
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It seems to me that the stories to both World's End and Dead Man's Chest can get horribly complicated at times (because there's just so much going on). And yet they're so relatively easy to follow. That requires some pretty mean storytelling skill.
I liked World's End too, but something about the story as a whole (as well as a couple details) doesn't sit well with me.
I think the movie would have been a lot better if it's predecessors had been different. If the Pirates of the Carribbean series had started as "Lord of the Rings on the seas" that would have been all right. As it is, Dead Man's chest and especially World's End deviate from the lightheartedness of Curse of the Black Pearl ( ... )
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I think the world could definitely do with more good-quality "Lord of the Rings"-style movies. Even more, though, I think it could do with more good-quality Curse of the Black Pearl-style movies, and I find it a bit disappointing when a movie series jumps tracks in the middle.
I don't exactly agree with you. Turing the POTC saga into some LOTR style saga would not have served the style of the movies. Nor do I think that would have been Gore Verbinski's style. And if I must be frank, I only truly enjoyed the first LOTR movie. I'm not a big fan of the other two . . . unlike the POTC flicks.
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I'm saying that they did turn World's End at least into a Lord of the Rings style saga.
What I mean is that Curse of the Black Pearl was a lighthearted general adventure story with dark overtones and intrinsic humor. World's End, on the other hand, was a dark, grim and serious battle-oriented adventure story with humorous overtones. To me, that style is reminiscent of Lord of the Rings.
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But for me, all of the POTC movies have managed to maintain its wacky style of humor . . . something I have never seen in any of the LOTR movies.
I guess we can agree to disagree.
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