I haven't read the article, so let me just state briefly why the movie didn't feel like just an action flick to me:
People of different nationalities/species, of different ages, of different gender come together and realise that when they cherish their different approaches they can beat incredible odds and be successful. At the center of this movie are Kirk and Spock who need to find an understanding of the other and who need to learn respect for their different approaches.
Now personally, in the sequel I want to see the exploration of space, I want to see the "To Boldly Go".
Actually, it's not an article, but a message board discussion. ;)
People of different nationalities/species, of different ages, of different gender come together and realise that when they cherish their different approaches they can beat incredible odds and be successful. At the center of this movie are Kirk and Spock who need to find an understanding of the other and who need to learn respect for their different approaches.
I see where other people get that reading, but again, it's not an angle I personally saw as particularly well explored, at least in this film.
If people saw deeper meanings in this movie than I did, then that's fine - but my issue here is with those who say Star Trek was never meant to have those deeper messages. Which, to be polite, is utter hogwash.
but my issue here is with those who say Star Trek was never meant to have those deeper messages. Which, to be polite, is utter hogwash.
I'm in perfect agreement with you. There were some Star Trek episodes that didn't focus on a specific message, but overall they tried to make a point, e.g. regarding tolerance for other cultures and beliefs, regarding the questions "what makes us human".
Thinking more about the new movie: Another theme was for me that the main characters had to find out who they really were and who they wanted to be. E.g. Spock as half-Vulcan, half-Human has to find a personal balance. Kirk has to find an overall purpose in his life. McCoy makes a new start - although his backstory is just briefly touched. Uhura makes the choice that she wants to be appreciated for more than being beautiful.
I agree. People can think what they want about the intended/unintended messages of the movie or TOS. Everyone has the right to whatever opinion they please. (Myself, I'm pretty sure that the only reason the messages of TOS seem obvious and unoriginal nowadays is because shows like ST have made them seem self-evident, when, at the time of TOS, they were considered to be anything but that.) But the whole "your opinion is wrong" argument is childish and tiresome. Again, they're allowed to believe it, the same as I'm allowed my own opinions, but it makes for such heated, mean-spirited arguments.
People can think what they want about the intended/unintended messages of the movie or TOS. Everyone has the right to whatever opinion they please.
Yes! And also wouldn't it be terribly boring if every person on this earth loved the same books or the same movies. I really enjoy the new Star Trek movie, because it speaks to me - somehow the themes I see in it, reflect aspects of my own life. But this doesn't mean that TOS or TNG or DS9 etc. aren't important to me as well. There are episodes of TOS that I enjoy and have rewatched frequently and then there are episodes I just find plain weird. But tastes may vary.
I find it strange that the Star Trek fandom that should celebrate the IDIC principle appears to have some very narrow minded fans. (Thank heavens there are many wonderful fans out there as well which whom it's fun to discuss different ideas.) But it's no more weird than the Star Wars fandom where the "real" fans get off on bashing the prequels and/or George Lucas.
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People of different nationalities/species, of different ages, of different gender come together and realise that when they cherish their different approaches they can beat incredible odds and be successful. At the center of this movie are Kirk and Spock who need to find an understanding of the other and who need to learn respect for their different approaches.
Now personally, in the sequel I want to see the exploration of space, I want to see the "To Boldly Go".
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People of different nationalities/species, of different ages, of different gender come together and realise that when they cherish their different approaches they can beat incredible odds and be successful. At the center of this movie are Kirk and Spock who need to find an understanding of the other and who need to learn respect for their different approaches.
I see where other people get that reading, but again, it's not an angle I personally saw as particularly well explored, at least in this film.
If people saw deeper meanings in this movie than I did, then that's fine - but my issue here is with those who say Star Trek was never meant to have those deeper messages. Which, to be polite, is utter hogwash.
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I'm in perfect agreement with you.
There were some Star Trek episodes that didn't focus on a specific message, but overall they tried to make a point, e.g. regarding tolerance for other cultures and beliefs, regarding the questions "what makes us human".
Thinking more about the new movie: Another theme was for me that the main characters had to find out who they really were and who they wanted to be. E.g. Spock as half-Vulcan, half-Human has to find a personal balance. Kirk has to find an overall purpose in his life. McCoy makes a new start - although his backstory is just briefly touched. Uhura makes the choice that she wants to be appreciated for more than being beautiful.
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Yes! And also wouldn't it be terribly boring if every person on this earth loved the same books or the same movies.
I really enjoy the new Star Trek movie, because it speaks to me - somehow the themes I see in it, reflect aspects of my own life. But this doesn't mean that TOS or TNG or DS9 etc. aren't important to me as well. There are episodes of TOS that I enjoy and have rewatched frequently and then there are episodes I just find plain weird. But tastes may vary.
I find it strange that the Star Trek fandom that should celebrate the IDIC principle appears to have some very narrow minded fans. (Thank heavens there are many wonderful fans out there as well which whom it's fun to discuss different ideas.)
But it's no more weird than the Star Wars fandom where the "real" fans get off on bashing the prequels and/or George Lucas.
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