Comments | lady_sarai: But I *like* the cookie!

lady_sarai

But I like the cookie!

Jan 29, 2007 00:14

First, apologies. I got smacked by the Hyper Bus, apparently. I feel like, if I weren't comfortably surrounded by pillows and a pile of folded towels, I would skip about and maybe dance a jig ( Read more... )

bruce/richard is eatsmybrain!love, richard white, pics, kittens, random

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likeadeuce January 29 2007, 07:32:47 UTC

You know, it says something about my flist that I've seen more Clark/Richard than Clark/Lois. But seriously, I kind of thought everybody agreed that the treatment of Richard as an actual human being, and not a person-shaped obstacle between the hero and the girl was one of the major strengths of the movie. And people want to kill him off or pretend he doesn't exist or would ABANDON JASON? Please, people. Not to generalize but I have the impression that a lot of Clark/Lois shippers in this fandom are pretty young and don't really think about what it means to be a parent? Not that I'm saying younger people CAN'T appreciate that, but maybe sort of a general trend?

lady_sarai January 29 2007, 16:15:53 UTC

I know. I was even under the impression that most people liked Richard more than Clark or Lois! Oh, my flist is indeed made of win. But then I found a Superman fic community and read at least three fics with variations on the theme that Lois tells Richard that Jason isn't his son and bam! Exit Richard. >_<

Just... NO.

I think you could be right--that, and people are used to shipping Clark/Lois and denial can be a strong force. So, you know, whatever it takes to remove the obstacle? GAH.

Then again, I AM used to the shipping wars in Harry Potter fandom, which can result in horrible, horrible characterizations and characters just thrown under the bus. Which is probably why I started gravitating toward gen fics so much. =P

I just don't get that mindset at all.

xenokattz January 30 2007, 17:53:31 UTC

Dude! I totally feel for that. I think it was trandenza who said we need more Richard fics and I was all "Whuh? But EVERYONE loves Richard?" and then FF.Net reveal that this was no so.

And there was wailing and gnashing of teeth.

A great part of what made Superman Returns so fascinating for me was the idea of Richard being a human Superman. He is just SO. Damned. Nice! He'll always do the right thing, etc, (and BTW, likeadeuce but besides that he genuinely loves Lois and Jason.

xenokattz January 30 2007, 18:01:14 UTC

Also, I think the internet might be trying to thwart the LJ-breaking. It's slow on my end, too.

lady_sarai January 30 2007, 18:58:08 UTC

Yeah, the time stamp says 1:01 but I got this at 1:55. Not Impressed, LJ. Not Impressed!

lady_sarai January 30 2007, 19:03:53 UTC

I know. Between you and likeadeuce and zoe_chan, I was thinking the whole PLANET loved Richard.

Poor boy.

And YES, he DOES. I was watching it with subtitles the other day (shut up, we know I'm a geek), because I've never been able to catch whatever it was Richard said after he and Lois talk in the kitchen--"but did you love him?" "No," etc. Subtitles reveal that after Lois denies (BADLY, btw) that she never loved Superman, Richard says "Lois, I shouldn't have brought it up."

::loves him::

I mean, never mind the whole going after Lois and Richard in the seaplane or turning the damn thing around to help Superman, he is just so awesome and made of win it's not even funny. And THEN he drives Lois to the hospital and you KNOW he knows she loves/loved Superman. Guh. But yes, like you said, he genuinely loves them and he wants what's best for them.

I also adore the rumor that the part was written with James Marsden in mind. I mean, it DOES sort of sum up his entire movie career. ;) (Well... maybe not the entirety of it.)

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