12 year old finds God

[lackingquality]

Recent events in my life have led me to reminisce on my childhood, the details of which I generally don't think about with any real detail. As some of you may know, I became insanely religious at the age of 12 (for those in the know, this ultimately involved a black hat). Being totally agnostic now, after having been part of the ultra orthodox for

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[g_pixel]

Now why would Ronnikkins want to marry a GIRL!?
I mean, there are so many better species in the world than that. If you insist on them being human, go for a guy at least. =P

At any rate, I still don't understand how can religion help w/ this kind of trouble.

[lackingquality]

this is coming from a so-called bi guy :P your cover is blown, bitch. and, i can't fully explain it but religion provided me with a tremendous sense of stability and a real sense of contentment, which I'll define as being truly happy/satisfied in the moment and not having some far off goal through which happiness was expected to be achieved. Anyway, cunt, that's the story.

[g_pixel]

I think I'm multi-sexual by now, but I doubt it matters to anyone, anymore. =P

Does the Ron mind? =P

[lackingquality]

Ron doesn't give a shit either way, fear not.

[cmec930]

Your post...fills me with affection for you. I like your philisophical bent & your honesty.

I hope you don't mind if I tell you I'll be praying for you. That sounds so condescending, I know...but since I don't enjoy prostelytizing (it's rude), it would be the best way I know how to express that affection.

I was agnostic for the first 26 years of my life and felt negatively about christians before I became one. What I can tell you from my experience is that intellectualizing faith doesn't work well until you accept that "faith" generally does not coexist with "proof". Faith is something you step out onto...and if you keep working it out...it makes more sense, becomes more 'solid' as you go along. That's all I know from my struggle with it.

--C2

[cmec930]

Even if we agree that "faith" does not go hand in hand with "proof"--and for the record, little other than the theorems of logic and mathematics so goes, if "proof" is understood in a strict sense--does this prevent faith from being supported by reasons to any extent? Presumably if it can "make more sense" over time, it can be so supported. But then why the attempt to secure for "faith" an alternate footing, distinguishing it carefully from our other belief states, or belief formation processes?

I agree that intellectualizing faith seems hopeless, but this is probably by definition of the term. And the fact that people have to "struggle" with the entire framework might be an indicator that there is a serious problem...