Still confused about Conrad's title. (Quick question)

May 16, 2009 22:38

Is it Sir Conrad Weller or Lord Conrad Weller? Could anyone explain me about this... ^^"

(Sorry, but I'm Asian so I don't understand much about European's title)

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mknsen08 May 16 2009, 16:12:25 UTC
I don't think there's much of a difference. XD; But I'm Asian, too, so what do I know. =))

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urashima4869 May 17 2009, 21:01:36 UTC
well, overhere (Thailand) we removed noble system many years ago. But the system's quite different. The first thing is we do not pass titles to their son or daughter (one's own right)

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catwho May 16 2009, 16:27:35 UTC
I believe it would be Lord Conrad Weller. Sir is generally a title granted to an otherwise commoner knight for service to the royal family or the country, whereas Lord is a title inherited as nobility. Since he is the son of a noble family, he is part of the "peerage" and he is automatically granted the title of Lord as a default. There's no reason he can't later on earn "Sir" but as a general rule the "Lord" overwrites the "Sir" since it denotes a higher rank.

Knighting still happens today in the UK; Elton John should technically be referred to as Sir Elton John, since he was knighted for service to England.

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urashima4869 May 17 2009, 21:05:45 UTC
yep, i used to think that Conrad must be in upper rank, but I'm not quite sure.

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kudouusagi May 16 2009, 16:48:29 UTC
I think it would be closer to sir... since in the novels Conrad explains that all soldiers are called kyou 「卿」 (and all people in noble families are automatically soldiers)

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urashima4869 May 17 2009, 21:11:50 UTC
「卿」」 can refer as "Lord" or "Sir" in English, right?

Umm, the translated manga here use Lord Wolfram, Lord Gwendal, etc. but Sir Conrad. Therefore I think the translator might've concidered about the difference between them although most of Thais don't really understand.

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urashima4869 May 17 2009, 22:05:41 UTC
Yeah, I think I should study Western History for 3 credits! XD

First, Gegenhuber is a "Lord" too because his family also rules the land I think? (I mean a part of one territory) Maybe I'm wrong.. I'm not sure at all.

If it is true that Conrad has no noble rank because of his father, then we should focus on this...

As far as we know, they don't mention on gender. It's like "absolute primogeniture." So as seamusog said, Lady Rochefort is a ruler of the territory ( ... )

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glitteringloke May 16 2009, 17:19:24 UTC
I'm pretty sure it's Lord, for many of the reasons catwho said. I also think the english dvds used lord if i remember right

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