[meta] Dawn Summers: Free Will and the Created Girl

Jan 04, 2014 15:36

I've been planning on posting this for months now - but have (obviously) had RL $h*t getting in my way ( Read more... )

meta series: dawn, btvs is flawed, whedonverse, dawnie is my personal hero, sometimes i channel taylor townsend, meta

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kikimay January 4 2014, 20:57:44 UTC
Interesting, really interesting! I love your observations of Dawn.

I haven't still decided if I truly believe that the auctor is dead. I'm thinking about it. I still feel that every author has a different touch and a kind of immortality through his works. For example, you can still recognize Dante's works between 1000 different kind of similar works, because he was obsessed with politics, because of his beliefs on God and love, because he wrote like no other ... I feel like he's very alive, even if he's long time dead. I don't know if this makes sense.

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kwritten January 25 2014, 21:15:37 UTC
That's exactly what I mean when I say "Believe the tale and not the teller."
*g*

I know I've filled up your inbox like a spaz, but I had one more thought re: Dawn's agency
Never apologize for filling up my inbox!

to what extent can we say that Buffy is likewise guilty of overriding Dawn's agency in the Gift
I'm actually going to refer to pocochina's meta ... BUT FREEDOM!!! which is a really lovely multi-fandom meta on the difference between free will, agency, and consent - in which she breaks it down like this:::

So, let’s walk this through: imagine someone walks into a corner shop, holds a gun to the clerk’s head, and says “give me all the money in the register.” The clerk, who reasonably fears for their life, complies.

Does the clerk have agency in this situation? Yes. The clerk could have told the robber to go fuck themselves. They, as subject in their own right, decided that arguing back with the robber was not worth their life. Another way of saying this is that they are responsible for their own behavior - indeed, I would commend ( ... )

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red_satin_doll January 28 2014, 20:25:20 UTC
So, to answer your question: No. Buffy does NOT take away Dawn's agency.

Thank you for the clarification and the link to Pocochina's meta!

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