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Aug 21, 2007 22:02

The newspapers have been full of genetically manipulated soy lately, and the poll from today states that over one half of Finns doesn't want to eat meat that has been fed with GMO soy, and that over 90% of Finns want the packages of said meat to be tagged so that you know you are, horror of horrors, eating animals that have been eating genes. Or ( Read more... )

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kupukello August 22 2007, 16:43:58 UTC
The bags are PERFECT! And the pictures make them even better, thank you so much! :D I haven't been needing them during summer anyways, I'm off to Stockholm first in two weeks, and THEN I'll get show off my new bag :D I'll be the envy of everybody *giggles*

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sevenpapermen August 21 2007, 19:56:08 UTC
The zoo needs money or needs to use the money they have. The cats don't have enough room to even exist in, much less to play ball!

One of my favorite pics I took was of a tiger at the zoo there. S/He cried the whole time and their enclosure is just so small. And short.

...but yay for leather balls?

Haha, awesome about the zipper bags. You're such a dork. I love it.

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kupukello August 22 2007, 16:47:04 UTC
Eh, the tigers have a fairly big cage, there are two of them actually. The lions are not that well off though, I feel quite sorry for them. They've produced more cubs this year, like almost every other year, so I guess they themselves like it there at least somewhat.

The zipper bags are GORGEOUS!! :D I've been whining and moaning about the fact that I have to use a zip lock back as a beauty bag when traveling, and how I wished there would be regulation size bags with proper mechanism and that were made of thicker plastic, and there I have them now! :D

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nimroddess August 21 2007, 23:04:08 UTC
I am all for genetically modified produce and things. But... I am a scientist who has been in the business of genetically modifying things. (Not things that humans eat, but it's all the same really.) My opinion is that the general public is anti-gene-meddling because they are afraid of what they don't understand. It is unnatural, just like gay sex. If there are legitimate dangers, I am unaware of what they might be.

I'm just guessing, but my understanding of the Jewish parent thing is that he would be part Jewish in terms of nationality/heritage, but he would have the choice whether or not to follow the Jewish religion.

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ladycoreopsis August 22 2007, 06:26:25 UTC
Perhaps your answer may apply to the society of fear that Americans like to live within (and I mean no offense as an American myself), but culturally, I don't see it applying to Finns. Finns tend to be more educated than your average American, and not just because the university is free, but because the school systems are better here. Kids learn more in primary and high school than American kids do. And then on top of that, lots of people have Masters degrees. And on top of that, newspaper reading percentages and book reading are very high here in Finland as well. People are pretty well informed here ( ... )

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ladycoreopsis August 22 2007, 06:37:27 UTC
Oh, and I should also note that my Finnish opinion on this also has an educational and bias. These are college-educated, gainfully employed Finns. So, by no means, does it represent the entire possible population of anti-GMO folks here.

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dihall August 22 2007, 00:46:08 UTC
Again - we love these posts!! Don't have an answer about the soy...but we may have to look at our stash of zippy bags!!! ((hugs))

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kupukello August 22 2007, 16:55:23 UTC
Zippy bags! Just this summer I saw the first zippy bags in the supermarket! They were too thin, and not the right size, but Simon solved my problem :D A see-through, regulation size beauty bag, that's what I needed!! :D

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Re: GMO Soya (and corn and whatever) kupukello August 22 2007, 17:12:37 UTC
(Whee!! German!!!)

What I still can't see is how the method of the cross-breeding (genetic manipulation) has to do with it: the problems listed in the article would be the same if the pesticide/bug proof plant was created with traditional cross-breeding. I found an article where one of the GMO monopolies had sued a Canadian farmer for stealing their patent, and then it turned out that the farmer had actually created HIS weather/pesticide/bug proof soy with the old methods, not by tampering the genes.

I find the environmental and ethical problems the most worrying. Genetic manipulation was supposed to solve the problem of famine, but since it's such a good money-maker, the countries that would benefit the most of fast growing, sturdy soy, can't afford to buy the seed!!

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