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circuit_four February 22 2007, 11:59:35 UTC
Quick conversational booster to keep this going while I run off to work... Remind me to tell you about the Stefan E. Jones article in Roleplayer magazine about the transhumanist race, and what he had to say about the Borg.

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krinndnz February 22 2007, 16:47:17 UTC
Sauce pls.

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circuit_four February 22 2007, 12:05:21 UTC
Oh, also, you have read Rudy Rucker's *ware series, right?

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krinndnz February 22 2007, 16:38:49 UTC
On the List.

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hemlock_martini February 22 2007, 17:25:30 UTC
I highly recommend just jumping into the last book in the series and wallowing in confusion for multiple chapters. It worked for me.

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paradoja de tiempo! mierde! krinndnz February 22 2007, 21:41:50 UTC
Actually I was planning on doing that with Wheel of Time first, if only for the TIME PARADOX OH SHI- jokes.

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postrodent February 22 2007, 14:43:06 UTC
I used to rail about the image of the Borg being only the most obvious facet of the anti-transhuman bias of Star Trek, and high-budget SF in general. Circuit4 and I see this often enough that we have a routine for it: when becoming "more than human" suddenly turns out to be a bad idea for insufficiently explored ideas, we start reciting in unison, "He learned too late that man is a feeling creature..."

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krinndnz February 22 2007, 16:48:35 UTC
Maybe it's that I've fallen far out of familiarity with Trek, but I don't recall an anti-H+ bias. Tell me more?

Also I'm going to go look it up on Memory Alpha and chalk up yet another entry - y'all are pushing The List a little hard. ^^;;

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postrodent February 22 2007, 16:59:17 UTC
Damn, it's been awhile since I inflicted TNG on myself, so I'm reaching. Let's see. Barkley was a prime example: the scriptwriters seemed to think it was much better for him to be a nebbish struggling to become a better human being than an emergent hyper-intelligence who could fly a starship with his brain. The Q's seemed to sometimes be in the right, but always be assholes into the bargain. Most of the digital sentiences were painted black, too -- it was always bad for computers to become self-aware.

I no longer have cable and thus can't cite as many specifics as I'd like. Maybe I'll see if one of my friends has a DVD set.

y'all are pushing The List a little hard

Man, I ain't even started yet! :)

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krinndnz February 22 2007, 17:03:48 UTC
Was it just TNG?

Also I'd say that de Lancie, at least, made a very amusing-to-watch jerk.

So I should just dig around in Memory Alpha, you're saying ?

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