Nietzsche 4

[koganbot]

According to Nietzsche, if I'm reading him right, Plato stood truth on its head by denying perspective. But I think it's a mistake for Nietzsche to use the word "perspective," it's a residual from Kantianism. I can believe that the earth rotates around the sun and I also can believe that the sun rises in the east and in certain circumstances that

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[dubdobdee]

the advantage of "perspective" over "serves some human interest" is that the latter risks (from FN's perspective) being dissolved in some (he would assume dogmatic) ""serves EVERYONE'S interest"

where perspectives really ARE incommensurable

"didn't cause a change in perspective but more like a wholesale change in an activity" -- this is however a distinct weakness of the perspective metaphor, because you think you can just walk over HERE to change your persective, but it really does require the equivalent of "walking to pluto" in the copernicus example

(i'm reasonably confident FN actually believes that it's about this hard to shift your perspective significantly, if not as hard as walking to pluto, then VERY VERY VERY hard: it demands you relocate yourself in a different world, which would entail a "different activity" --- but yes, the word "perspecitve" implies that changing it is something much less dramatic and much more easily achievable)

[dubdobdee]

had another, slightly difft thought about the term perspective on the bus home: you, i, dewey and even -- up to a point -- all believe something about humans that i really don't think nietzsche does believe, which is that (at the ballot box; in the eye of god) people are (with caveats) interchangeable... my vote is in principle worth the same as yours; my life is worth no less than yours yadda yadda (democracy boilerplate, in effect

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[dubdobdee]

"you, i, dewey and even -- up to a point -- all believe"
shd be
you, i, dewey and even -- up to a point -- kant all believe

[koganbot]

which carries a freight of implication, when it comes to perspective, that our (sightline) perspectives aren't so far from one another, that with a bit of moving around and changing places, the differences can be reconciled

I don't think "one man one vote" implies anything of the sort.* In any event, I don't believe that all differences can necessarily be reconciled. ("Reconciled" is an ambiguous word. Creationists can become reconciled to the fact that Darwin is getting taught in the school, and can decide that there are other more important battles, while still believing that Darwinism is wrong.) I don't see where Real Punks Don't Wear Black, for example, would give a reader the impression that "differences can be reconciled

[dubdobdee]

i thought your exam was today! (or is this it?)

[koganbot]

Yes. I didn't get a chance to read your responses to Nietzsche 3 and Nietzsche 4 until after the exam, but the earlier ones I did read were quite helpful. I'm still swamped in stuff (such as poptimists polls), but I'll try to reply to some of these at some point.

[dubdobdee]

only marginally on-topic but the photos of him in the german wiki archive are kind of astounding -- as young and often VERY posey young man; as absurdly intense (and still rather posey) grown-up; then a series as a patient a year before his death at 56, when he'd been irreparably mad and in his sister's care for more than a decade