So, is there a distinctively American bosh?

[koganbot]

So, is there a distinctively American equivalent to bosh? Seems to me that snap and bubblecrunk and Houston's screwed 'n' chopped thing and whatever it is they call the stuff from Memphis all have potential but are probably too not-completely unearnest underneath and just not hysterically boshin' enough. The closest to a bosh equivalent might be

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[katstevens]

The only American dance music* I really know anything about is Detroit Techno (a sub-genre all of its own!). That's way too Serious to be included in the same bracket as Scooter, but I'd still call it bosh. However I think that's not quite the question you're asking.

*i.e. 4x4 beats of 130bpm and up

[cis]

I think the juke works more as a US equivalent to jumpstyle than to bosh-as-a-whole -- the current Scooter album has obv got a lot of jumpstyle in it (even in the name!). A youtube jumpstyle search shows that you could jumpstyle dance to almost anything, but jumpstyle-the-music shares that particular very strong slapped-down beat, between 140 and 160bpm.

[koganbot]

Well, clearly jumpstyle is just a bagpipe or two away from riverdance.

[cis]

That bagpipe or two, in full:
- new and continental-european rather than "traditional" irish: roots probably as much in skanking/moshing/gabba dance as anything else.
- riverdance is made up of controlled small movements: jumpstyle is wide kicks, huge leg swings. one's tight, the other's quite wild.
- riverdance is follows bars and phrases in the music where jumpstyle only recognises the beats: a lot of jumpstyle moves are five beats long in four-four music.

the one-on one too-kicking version of jumpstyle is very reminiscent of trad eng morris dancing though.

entirely unrelated to the americo-bosh question by now

[cis]

that was 'toe-kicking', above

[weasel_seeker]

Ok. Juke has been confusing me for about a week now, so this seems to be as good a point to put forth a query as any other.

What do we mean by juke? Do we mean"juke house" which is the only wikipedia-ish music type juke definition I could find? Dave described Keke Palmer's So Uncool, which I finally discovered this week as juke-pop, and it mentions juking a fair bit. And then there's that youtube video you just linked to.

A measure of clarification for an obtuse listener would be greatly appreciated.

[koganbot]

How about if I answer with a firm "I don't know"?

On the other hand, I've got some juke links here.

I think the only juke-relevant track on So Uncool is "Footwurkin'."

Gots ta work your feet, indeed.

[weasel_seeker]

Fair enough. If sonically that's the only one that fits the template, that goes a fair distance to helping me puzzle this out. She certainly mentions juking on three or four tracks, but singing about /=/ is.

Impressive videos.

Re: Gots ta work your feet, indeed.

[koganbot]

Er, well I don't know that it is the only one that fits the template; just assumed it was.