"I Am My Own Mommy, The Fuck!" (Top Singles, One-Third Through 2018)

Jun 01, 2018 05:54

Closed my 2017 Top 100 on March 3, giving myself a sigh of relief that "Gummo" and "The Race" were near misses and I wouldn't have to write about them. But here those guys are anyway, 6ix9ine and Tay-K, sure things on this list for "Billy" and "After You." And I still haven't done my writeup for 2017. Probably don't have much more to say about ( Read more... )

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Er, how much did I care about the Backstreet Boys anyway, and how good were they really? koganbot June 6 2018, 16:15:15 UTC
Er, how much did I care about the Backstreet Boys anyway, and how good were they really?

"Ninety One may be the best boyband since the Backstreet Boys" implies that the Backstreet Boys are better than Big Bang, which they're probably not, even if their top songs are a greater top. Certainly they're not as interesting as Big Bang. I was just kinda thoughtlessly falling into the idea of the Backstreet Boys as a gold standard, riffing off of Christophe having once said that Big Bang's "Blue" was the greatest boyband song since the Backstreet Boys' "I Want It That Way" (inspiring my Boyband 15 post) and my misremembering Christgau having called the Backstreet Boys the best boyband since the Beatles.

(What Xgau actually wrote was a lot more complicated: he says Backstreet Boys are not just another in a string of girl-directed concoctions - runs through a short historical list of mediocrities with maybe Wham! not being half bad, before arriving at the Beatles whom the Backstreet Boys are not remotely as good as, also not as good as the ( ... )

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Er, how much did I care about the Backstreet Boys anyway, and how good were they really? pt. 2 koganbot June 6 2018, 16:51:37 UTC
Actually, Backstreet Boys and *NSync are still Subjects For Further Research If I Ever Get Around To It.

"Everybody (Backstreet's Back)" was transcendent, and "I Want It That Way" and "Quit Playing Games (With My Heart)" were faultlessly tuneful while still having punch, but I find fault with those two anyway for the singing having not nearly enough punch or push or character - character not always being musically wonderful, but the girl confessional wave that wiped out Backstreet - Pink, Michelle, Avril, Ashlee, Lindsay, Aly & AJ, Taylor, Miley, Demi, Selena - was a lot better for it, more powerful and individual and engaging. Blanks can be effective depending on what musical elements seep through the blank. But blanks usually don't out-do the passionate, specific, and idiosyncratic ( ... )

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Re: Er, how much did I care about the Backstreet Boys anyway, and how good were they really? pt. 2 koganbot June 8 2018, 15:27:56 UTC
So, maybe Ninety One are the best boyband since the Bee Gees.* We'll see how Ninety One develop a body of work; on just two EPs' worth of music, I'd rate them three great songs, which is a lot ("Su Asty," "Айыптама," and "Ah!Yah!Ma!"), with most everything else good to very good, covering a range that says they can potentially go anywhere.

*Bee Gees hit me strong when I was thirteen, but I didn't end up caring that much. They did turn out a catalog that included some first-rate stuff. In fact they're a Subject For Further Research too, since I basically only know their excellent U.S. debut LP and the disappointing couple of singles that came with their next album, and then the second flowering a decade later right before and after Saturday Night Fever. And "Woman In Love," a Streisand ballad that Barry Gibb created a great shivery Bee Gees-style chorus for.

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"Loneliness calls" skyecaptain June 6 2018, 18:19:03 UTC
It's interesting -- I find contemporary hip-hop (that my students listen to) to be very *ugly* in a way I haven't thought it was until somewhat recently, maybe past few years. But that ugliness has started to pierce through with its alienation, which I've been very attracted to. 21 Savage is the bluntest -- or maybe "most blunted" -- persona I can think of, and I'm drawn to it as a kind of sucking void. I admit to being extremely off-put by 6ix9ine, but I also told one of my students that he reminded me in the kind of one-note ferocity of his delivery of Waka Flocka Flame. It's the sadness seeping in at the edges and from the backdrop that brings me back to him. (Compare to another favorite among my students that I really can't stand, FGB Duck's "Slide," the remixes of which, mostly by women, tend to be better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QzQUO3j0gE... )

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Re: "Loneliness calls" koganbot June 7 2018, 15:55:09 UTC
Totally conflicted about "Slide." The FGB Duck original is dead and monotonous, those words understating how oppressively monotonous it sounds, until he unexpectedly starts screaming, and then for several seconds it's absolutely the most exciting musical moment I've had all year. Then back to the monotony, then he pulls the screaming trick again, and later again, and it's exciting every time even with diminishing returns. Mixed review!

Some of the remixes veer towards mesmerizing rather than monotonous, are more basically listenable - it is a powerful track - but none have FGB Duck's shouting excitement, either. On single listens my favorite two so far are Kidd Kenn's and Bangg 3's; I also like Queen Key's and A.K's and Sexy Red's and Fooch's. Do you have any favorites?

In all this I'm eliding* how oppressive the original "Slide" is, not in the sense of "dull" but in the sense of ugly and threatening and I have the sense of being battered listening to it. This though is not necessarily a musical flaw - unless it is, of course, for ( ... )

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Re: "Loneliness calls" skyecaptain June 7 2018, 18:11:28 UTC
I think I need to listen to 6ix9ine alone before I can pass judgment -- I've only really heard him in the context of my classroom, where it feels like an intrusion (not just literally because he's loud as fuck). The only track I'd heard before he blew up for my students was "Gummo," which didn't really do much for me.

I had the same reaction to FGB Duck that you did -- total bore, then something, then nothing again. It's not dissimilar to Wang Rong's "Chick Chick," just a blast of feeling surrounded by something a little blanker, except with Wang Rong the contrast is a little sharper and the surroundings aren't quite so drab.

I mostly hear the Bangg 3 and the Queen Key versions. Key is closest to getting some of the energy of the (parts of the) original, Bangg 3 does something totally different, almost turns it into something pretty.

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Re: "Loneliness calls" koganbot June 7 2018, 22:59:33 UTC
Um. FGB = FBG (short for Fly Boy Gang).

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