A punk votes for a punk, you add the term "etc.," etc. (Days Of Future Posts, Late March 2017)

Mar 31, 2017 17:29

Stubs of ideas, some of which may turn into future posts:

(1a) A punk votes for a punk (Johnny Rotten says nice things about Trump). Okay, he's not necessarily saying that he did vote for Trump, though from what he said it's a good assumption he did; but anyway, my armchair psychosocial analysis of the Trump win already had been "Punks voted for a ( Read more... )

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Goodnight, good morning, whatever davidfrazer April 1 2017, 09:42:00 UTC
Dreamcatcher's comeback (out on 5th April) sounds pretty hard.

The girls have been known to headbang a bit. Especially Siyeon.

Among other things, Siyeon is into BABYMETAL, ONE OK ROCK and Maroon 5, so perhaps covering Lucky Strike was her idea.

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Re: Goodnight, good morning, whatever davidfrazer April 1 2017, 12:46:20 UTC
Let's see if this works.

No it doesn't.

Third time lucky?

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My description of Rudy Martinez as a weak bully-type punk is not altogether fair koganbot April 3 2017, 04:02:13 UTC
My description of "96 Tears" as weak bully-type punk is not altogether fair: I think Question Mark is being more nuanced in his lyrics than either the Syndicate Of Sound or the Seeds are; he's acknowledging and owning his own weakness, and letting on that he knows he's enmeshed in a psychological dynamic that's beyond him. Whereas "Pushin' Too Hard" and "Little Girl" are just weak boys acting tough - which isn't necessarily a bad thing for a song to do, for capturing this and making it immortal, and these songs are rightly classics. They're just dishonest fucked-up classics that still make me angry and still make my great songs list, and that paint a picture of my own emotions that I still don't like to see.

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Re: My description of Rudy Martinez as a weak bully-type punk is not altogether fair koganbot April 3 2017, 12:44:57 UTC
Which doesn't mean it would've been wrong to call "96 Tears" punk in 1971, when Dave Marsh coined the phrase "punk rock" in a short piece in Creem mag about a ? And The Mysterians reunion gig. My intuitive take when I began reading the term wasn't to think of "punk" as a simple synonym for "bully." The usage was obviously more affectionate than that, and even regular usage not related to music wasn't strictly derogatory: young kids hanging out, looking to look tough and looking to look cool being part of it, and the weakness of being kids part of it - but w/out the compensating for the weakness being the main part, necessarily. Which doesn't mean that there wasn't the sense that, if you're a real tough guy, a genuine hoodlum, or a real strong man - a detective, a sheriff - you could take them.

And "Little Girl" and "Pushin' Too Hard" are not "just weak boys acting tough," not remotely, even if I just said they were. Not just. For one thing, I don't define music primarily by its lyrics. And calling, say, the Electric Prunes and the ( ... )

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Re: My description of Rudy Martinez as a weak bully-type punk is not altogether fair koganbot April 3 2017, 13:10:07 UTC
Marsh says in Fortunate Son that one reason he used the term punk is that people would call him a punk, and Lester Bangs and Greg Shaw, for their championing of low-grade stuff like "96 Tears" and for their frequently disrespectful treatment of psychedelic and progressive rock.

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Melanie davidfrazer April 15 2017, 11:40:57 UTC
Choclat's contracts expired in February, and Melanie has given an interview to Kpopalypse.

To summarise, they never earned any money, the CEO was useless, the staff constantly pressured them to work harder and lose weight, and Melanie becamse depressed and began self-harming. And after thinking up the biracial gimmick the CEO decided that Melanie was "to American" and needed to look and behave like a proper Korean girl.

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Re: Melanie koganbot April 16 2017, 16:57:21 UTC
Thanks for this. I'm giving it its own post, here.

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Re: Melanie koganbot July 3 2017, 16:59:06 UTC
Added a little about Sarah Wolfgang to the Melanie post. Sarah had been Hanhee in Tahiti. It was Sarah's interview with kpopalypse that inspired Melanie to get in touch with kpopalypse/Asian Junkie.

http://koganbot.livejournal.com/364902.html?view=5194342#t5194342

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