Flight-Attendant Pop

Jun 26, 2013 22:21

More wtf from Korea, Sunny Hill's "Darling Of All Hearts," which I described on Rolling Country as "sorta Irish folk-country flight-attendant pop" - though Mat points out on K-pop 2013 that "featuring" star Hareem plays the Swedish nyckelharpa (no doubt worth five times as much as the Irish pennywhistle he also plays*) and that the vocals in the " ( Read more... )

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askbask June 27 2013, 08:55:18 UTC
Don't know that this is the best example of dance or song, but it is a lot of people.

Can't seem to properly embed videos here http://youtu.be/e3ft1YyUkYY

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koganbot June 27 2013, 10:54:53 UTC
I'm also having trouble embedding (had to go to the old embed code to get "Darling Of All Hearts" to work). We'll see if this works (old embed code):

Or this (lj-template):

Or this (new embed code):

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koganbot June 27 2013, 11:03:41 UTC
Unfortunately, "Små grodorna" made me think of "The Dreidl Song." I'll see if I can come up with more intelligent commentary later (about what indigenous European "folk" musics tend to have in common, except I'm totally unqualified to talk on the subject).

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ext_878085 June 28 2013, 14:48:52 UTC
I can't think of any American act of the last fifty years that could pull off something like this

I think songs similar to this were possible in the early to mid-80's. This type of light, breezy genre mash-up reminds me of stuff Cyndi Lauper attempted on her enjoyable but not totally successful second album (True Colors) and it even reminds me of stuff from Madonna's "True Blue" record. It was also a time when songs like Huey Lewis's "Hip to be Square" and Billy Joel's "The Longest Time" and "Uptown Girl" could be huge hits. Not that I love those songs but they sort of have a similar feel, if not sound, incorporating older musical genres and styles into current sounds in a fun way. I don't think something like this could be a hit now in the US but possibly in the UK.

I have not loved Sunny Hill's songs in the past and I don't think this is going to be the one to change my mind but I do love the sound of this track and the video is definitely fun.

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koganbot June 28 2013, 18:44:41 UTC
What I had in mind - what I don't think translates to America - is the "We are here to serve you" smile of the women and the melody. Americans always insist on a wise-cracking toughness to even their most "wholesome" girls. I'm thinking of Ginger Rogers as a prototype. And Madonna and Cyndi were playing with not being wholesome.

The thing about Sunny Hill is that they're not being compliant good-hostess types, but they're in a context where compliant good hostess is a viable type, and they use that type to come across as something strong and not compliant while nonetheless being as light and as engaging as the music.

Kylie Minogue's "I Should Be So Lucky" might fit the type, though it's not as musically varied as "Darling Of All Hearts." Of course, Kylie's Australian, not American, but she had a couple of hits here.

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ext_878085 June 28 2013, 21:04:07 UTC
Yes, we do insist on wise-cracking toughness. Your clarification makes it harder to think of an American singer fitting the type you mention without going all the way back to late period Doris Day (one of my faves).

I just watched the "True Blue" video and I do think it is an example of Madonna playing with the idea of being wholesome, both visually and musically, even though most of her work from that time and after was her playing with not being wholesome. Melodically, I think the song manages the "We are here to serve you" aspect as well, though I think her song "Cherish" is a better example and better song in general. Watching the Madonna video, I realize how little meaning I usually take away from videos. Generally, I find videos distract from my enjoyment of good songs though sometimes they help mediocre songs.

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ext_878085 June 28 2013, 21:18:24 UTC
Your title "Flight Attendant Pop" and mentioning Kylie reminds me that there is a Kylie song that sort of has an airline theme ("Light Years") and in concert she acts as a flight attendant. Unfortunately, I can't find a clip online. However, she has another song called "Love Boat" that would fit the title "Cruise Director Pop" where she descends to the stage on a giant anchor. But of course, she's Australian and these songs are not hits in the US.

http://youtu.be/l2r0lj3CI2U

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koganbot June 30 2013, 14:51:48 UTC
Btw, if you're not seeing Eng Subs when you hit play, I recommend you click CC and get them. The lyrics switch two-thirds of the way through from "I need love," to "Maybe I'm not all that lonely and maybe I prefer being single; actually, I like it." So as Mat says on K-pop 2013 it ends up like GLAM's "I Like That." The overall impression I get, then, is of someone not relishing the role of confidant, the one whom boys tell their romantic problems to rather than one who's the object of the romance; so she wants the option of being the love object so that ultimately she can turn it down and remain single (maybe a distant subtext being that she can get the romance and [unmentioned] sex without having to be in a couple ( ... )

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davidfrazer June 30 2013, 15:38:47 UTC
Sunny Hill's Bad Boy is said to be an attack on former president Lee Myung-bak. The lyrics criticise him for being too friendly to the United States and Japan -- "Cities I like are Washington and Tokyo". In South Korean politics, anti-Americanism and nationalism generally are left-wing positions, while right-wing politicians are strongly pro-American and not unfriendly towards Japan.

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koganbot June 30 2013, 16:38:08 UTC
That's really interesting. There's no way I'd have been able to interpret those lyrics on my own. Ditto "Let's Talk About," which Seoulbeats describes as a "scathing parody of the K-pop industry, particularly the treatment of girl groups." Whereas when I look at the translated lyrics to that one, I'm at sea. (No pop!gasa translation for that song, and I'm wondering if the translator at jpopasia really got them right.)

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Typo koganbot June 30 2013, 16:18:48 UTC
"A couple of years ago I stared using the word "sociocultural" as a sort of joke"

"stared" should be "started"

So, a couple of years ago I started using the word "sociocultural" as a sort of joke...

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Tymee on the warpath davidfrazer July 2 2013, 10:04:18 UTC
Here's a fancam of Tymee/e.via performing a new song called Fuck You (NSFW, obviously). Perhaps it's a message to her old agency...

(Link in case the embed doesn't work.)

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Re: Tymee on the warpath koganbot July 2 2013, 14:02:12 UTC
See if these work (livejournal is messing up a number of things all of a sudden; lj-cut isn't working right, for instance):

The [small] embed using the "lj-template" command works, but using the YouTube embed codes, they don't. Up in the post itself, I could use the old YouTube embed code but not the new. Very strange.

So this seems for the time being to be the only type of embed that works in comments:

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Re: Tymee on the warpath koganbot July 2 2013, 20:33:11 UTC
Ah, now some of the other embeds seem to be showing up (maybe 'cause I'm at a different computer).

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anonymous July 2 2013, 11:22:39 UTC
I love you Frank

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koganbot July 2 2013, 14:10:07 UTC
I love you too (hoping the comment wasn't spam).

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