I wonder how much of this plotting template has to do with that memo Hague (or was it Vogler?) sent around Hollywood explaining Campbell's "heroe's journey." It follows their screen-writing 'advice' pretty closely. I bet even the act turns are on cue.
sure does, doesn't itklytaimnestraDecember 29 2009, 19:32:24 UTC
And it makes it very clear just how sexist that "hero's journey" stuff is. I always liked the way Whedon turned it around and made it clear that women also have hero's journeys; but nobody has followed his lead. Mostly they just accept all Campbell's extremely gendered assumptions.
Re: sure does, doesn't itklytaimnestraDecember 29 2009, 19:50:05 UTC
Not according to Campbell, who actually questions whether women "can have a hero's journey". As far as I can tell the hero's journey was originally female - a woman goes into the Underworld to retrieve something of great value to the clan, that is, a new life, in childbirth; and the woman doesn't always make it back afterwards; and her achievement, or sacrifice, or both, are celebrated. This was co-opted by men. But to then claim that maybe women CAN'T have a hero's journey? Campbell, you stink.
And so does Hollywood. I so hate to see so much money wasted on such a lousy story. Give Whedon 1/10 of the budget and he'll produce something so much better, that doesn't marginalize everyone on the planet except white boys ...
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And, yes, the hero's journey shouldn't be gender-specific.
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And so does Hollywood. I so hate to see so much money wasted on such a lousy story. Give Whedon 1/10 of the budget and he'll produce something so much better, that doesn't marginalize everyone on the planet except white boys ...
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