Comments | kittylady: A word about the Denver shooting

kittylady

A word about the Denver shooting

Jul 28, 2012 08:28

To everyone who says this tragedy could have been prevented by stricter gun control laws, and especially to those who say it could have been prevented by everyone in the theater having a gun on them, I say that you are not only wrong, but also full of shit ( Read more... )

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scarybaldguy July 28 2012, 15:51:57 UTC

drd2be July 28 2012, 20:16:20 UTC

Sadly, many individuals have access to free or at least low-cost mental health care and refuse to use it. People who are delusional often don't seek therapy (they think nothing is wrong!)....so who knows what's wrong with this dude. I do agree that easier access may have prevented this, but as we saw with the Virginia Tech shooting, it doesn't work a good deal of the time. Just my two cents.

kittylady July 29 2012, 14:14:41 UTC

'Easier access' is not a radical overhaul. As someone who's lived without insurance for most of her life, I can say that most people in my end of the boat know that free is worth what you pay for it. And I can speak from personal experience that bad help is far worse than no help.

By 'radical overhaul', I mean a much more strigent set of qualifications for accreditation, a much stronger focus on psychiatry as opposed to psychology, building of institutions that are kept and maintained at high quality of life levels, and a mandatory biannual evaluation by someone who passed those beefed up examinations for everyone in a high-stress environment (ie: everyone). And that's really just the barest start of what's needed.

drd2be July 30 2012, 02:59:23 UTC

Except I personally AM a therapist for the 'easier access' folks, as are my peers. They are great therapists. If anything, they are the ones who are MOST devoted, because they get paid shit and do the job anyway, with tons of pressures to put more clients in their schedules ( ... )

kittylady July 30 2012, 07:41:55 UTC

It's been pointed out to me that there's a chance my earlier comment to you could have been construed as a personal attack. I assure you that my only intention was clairification of a point, and if my words caused you any personal offense I am truly sorry. I sincerely want your profession to be better than my own and many other's experiences of it.

Obviously I am biased, but I don't think that some of the problems you think exist in the "easier access" therapy settings--The Coleman Professional Services and Portage Paths and other Community Mental Health settings--really do, or at least not universally.

Huh. Let's try that a bit shorter.

Obviously I am biased, but I don't think that some of the problems you think exist in the "easier access" therapy settings really do, or at least not universally.

You just casually dismissed over ten years of my life in the hands of people who shouldn't have been allowed to hand out aspirin at a church picnic.

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marence July 29 2012, 23:28:55 UTC

Amen! I just ranted about guns today. I'm a pacifist that nonetheless believes in the Home As Castle theory, and there's gonna be a gun, knife, sword, or club waiting for anyone who is stupid enough to come in uninvited ( ... )

hiromasaki July 30 2012, 03:54:14 UTC

they got the meds and therapy right once, then another round of cuts meant she couldn't go there, and is back on the merry-go-round of knowing exactly what they should prescribe her & the docs not listening, because, y'know, a 30-yr-old woman doesn't know anything about what's best for her own body & brain.

That's the fault of the new people not even bothering to look at the transfer chart. Or your daughter not asking for them to be transferred, one of the two. Look into some of the 'maintain your own medical records' services out there... I can't really recommend one over the other (unless you're looking to store images, then I work for a place and totally can recommend one.) but it helps to make sure you have a copy of everything if you need to slap a new doctor in the face with it.

kittylady July 30 2012, 07:53:18 UTC

Rant away. From the sounds of it, a bit of ranting will do you good. Of course, it also sounds like you and your daughter could use some alone time with a flamethrower and a pile of splodey things, but ranting uses less stuff.

I hope she gets the help she needs as fast as possible, with no stress for either of you in between.