Supernatural 5.17 "99 Problems"

Apr 09, 2010 15:27

Remember that one show about two brothers named Sam and Dean Winchester? Y'know, the one where they drove around the country, hunting down ghosts and monsters and all kinds of stuff? I miss that show. Instead of that show, I keep having to watch a documentary about Dean Winchester's epic man-pain, his side-kick angel, and some other tall dude.

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episode review, supernatural, 5.17

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shirai_hoshi April 10 2010, 14:57:46 UTC
hahahaha omg, i think i love you ♥. I usually think Dean is a sonuvabitch in some way. :P

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kittratty April 10 2010, 19:42:41 UTC
Oh, thank you. =] ATM, I would have to agree with you on that last point. Haha.

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Sammys Windswept hair ROCKS! akirani April 10 2010, 18:21:30 UTC
I experimented a total Kleenextime with this episode.
Dean being all heartbroken (AGAIN) and Sam (FINALLY * pets sam in the head, because WELL DONE SAMMY! it was useless because Dean ran away anyway but still*) told him that HE NEEDS HIS BROTHER; that he cant do it alone.
Hurra for Sam!, (because he might have been a douchebag last season but now? NOW HE IS DAH KING)

well, like I was saying it was a really touching episode until Kripke decided that a scene of Dean leaving Sam in a motel room in order to met ¿Lisa? (correct me if this is not her name but I DON REALLY REMEMBER HER gosh!) was the MOST coherent way to end this.
I just cracked up, and im SOO sorry but I couldnt help it.
THAT WAS THE MOST RANDOM THING EVAAH!. for real.
(goes to a dark corner and starts crying)
you are loosing it Kripke, LOOSING IT!!

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Re: Sammys Windswept hair ROCKS! kittratty April 10 2010, 18:52:25 UTC
I totally agree! I think they should have just ended the episode with Dean driving away or something. Wouldn't have stopped me from wanting to punch him all over the place, but it wouldn't have saved us from the most random of all scenes EVER!!

SAMMY'S ALL BIG AND STRONG AND STUFF NOW! I LOOVE HIM. YES, YES, I DO.

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You say it like that's a bad thing. krisreinke April 10 2010, 18:30:32 UTC
Sam *is* an abomination... *grin*... but I suspect that too is funnier in Enochian.

I didn't take it as an insult. More as a catagory. Chuck is a profit, Claire is a vessel, Sam is an abomination. (Much like the Gregori were - and they were also 'heroes on the earth'.)

From Sam's expression I don't think he took it as an insult either. At least not as Castiel being more insulting than his angel attitude usually is.

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Re: You say it like that's a bad thing. kittratty April 10 2010, 18:38:36 UTC
Oh, I agree. I don't Cas meant anything nasty by it. At first I had a twinge of "Ow, man. That hurts." And Sam kinda winced a little, so I think he felt that way, too. But like you said, I think Cas was just saying it like fact. That's just what Sam is, especially to the eyes of Heaven.

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Re: You say it like that's a bad thing. akirani April 11 2010, 02:34:43 UTC
Yeah, Sam might be an abomination but not because he wanted it.
the poor boy just had a ridiculosly bad luck SINCE THE BEGINING!
Imagine, you have like what? 8 or 9 months since you came to this world and some stupid demon throws his evil blood into your mouth because someone else decided that you will be the one who is gonna end everything. Pretty nasty eh.

Besides everything he does HAS to be wrong (wanting a normal thanksgivindinner, going to Standford to look out for a better future) even if is completle normal,I mean the kid wanted a life.
but Dean?,Dean had had the angels AND heaven ALWAYS by his side. He does something crappy but i doesnt matter because at the end it will have a REALLY STRONG AND VALID REASON BEHIND IT.
And after everything they blame you for all the bad stuff and call you an abomination, AN ABOMINATION!
Just Horrible.

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Re: You say it like that's a bad thing. kittratty April 11 2010, 05:30:32 UTC
Definitely. I think there's a total double standard with Sam and Dean sometimes, and it's kind of upsetting. Sam can't seem to do anything right, and he never really has control over anything. Like you said, he was fed demon blood as a 6 month old, and his mom had, unintentionally, sold him out before he was even born. Everything he's done has been manipulated in some way, and it's just plain tragic.

I don't know if it's done by the show or by the fandom, but it seems like Dean is portrayed as the grand hero, no matter what. Not that he isn't awesome or anything, but I feel slightly irked whenever people refuse to acknowledge Dean's faults.

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petit_baobab April 11 2010, 04:47:15 UTC
Sry to parachute here out of nowhere, but I saw your link through the newsletter.

I think Dean is pretty much reacting to what's been happening this season, with the whole 1. seeing the bleak, bleak future, 2. having gone to Heaven and misunderstanding so much of Sam's version of it. I think he feels really alone right now, and going to Lisa was like throwing out a flare. He never expected to have a family outside of Sam, a life other than the hunt, but Lisa is representative of all that could have been. In a way, it felt like a suicide note, that scene with Lisa.

The whole "Sam is an abomination" it just felt like the usual cruel humor thing. I can appreciate it, but I understand if it makes other people cringe.

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kittratty April 11 2010, 05:27:21 UTC
No worries about the parachuting. I like visitors. =]

I know what you're saying about Dean. I just kinda wish that his "suicide note" could have been with Sam, but I know he doesn't really seem to trust Sam anymore. That makes me sad, but that's just how things go, I guess. I get that he'd want to have some kind of family somewhere. Lisa was definitely more representative of that than an actual love interest, I think.

I cringed at first about the "abomination" comment. A lot of people think Cas meant it, but I don't think he did. Just a statement of fact.

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