pairings "rant" meme

[kindkit]

I'm not sure how ranty these rants are, but I tried.

Spoilers are possible for any of the listed fandoms, although I've made huge/not ubiquitously known spoilers highlight-to-read.

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[silver_sandals]

I wanted to hear about friendship or romance or both, so I'm happy with the result :)

I also agree with something you wrote in your DS9 reviews about preferring any (het) romance on the show to stay subtextual; the main cast are all so interesting and have such good chemistry with each other, I don't really know who to ship!

It's so rare, too, to have a good male/female friendship that never turns romantic and it's something I think I want almost as much as canon f/f romance because it's something I can relate to my own relationships.

[kindkit]

My sense is that the Dax-Sisko relationship was most romantic when it was Curzon Dax, which makes me happier than if it was the other way around (strictly platonic friendship with Curzon, romance-tinged friendship with Jadzia).

[lady_twatterby]

Always read the Holmes and Watson relationship as a partnership, each bringing their own stronger and weaker points into it, both in a professional and in a personal way.

You're right, for Holmes, the need to have Watson around is greater than vice versa.

[kindkit]

Holmes's need is very visible, because he's not entirely a functional personal without Watson. Whereas Watson just slips into somnolent respectability without Holmes!

[halotolerant]

I love the layers that come with conscious!stagegay (for example DAAS and Take That) and the 'wanna see us kiss' thing that in some senses offers an insight and in others in just a tease, I suppose most because you know that here are two men who are physically comfortable with each other, but with whom the *emotions* might be even more complicated as a result. And you sold me so hard on Paul/Tim - I do hope you do that fic, I really must do another, they're just too compelling!

The epic romance that is Charles/Erik sucked me in from my first encounter with the X-Men cartoon and then the comics all whilst quite young - the fact that unlike so many cartoon villians this was not just a random evil genius who wanted the world because it was *there* but a three-dimensional character with a confliciting ideology who genuinely thought he was doing the right thing by his own terms...

[kindkit]

My feelings about stage gay depend almost entirely on whether the men concerned deny it when they're offstage. DAAS never really did, and for me that makes the difference between cynical manipulation and something like, I dunno, a performance that's also an exploration. It's not that I think "OMG it's all totally TRUE" (well, not with any rational part of my mind) but the lack of an--always implicitly homophobic--denial feels like an acknowledgement of complicated emotions.

Charles/Erik was what brought me into X-Men too (when I saw X3!) after years of being a snob about comics and superheroes and stuff. Erik in particular, because yes, as you said, he's an amazing example of genuine moral complication in the superhero genre.

[mcicioni]

Thank you! Agree 100%. Agree also with your conclusions on (Book)Raffles/Bunny. Much easier to fantasize TV R and B living quite happily ever after in the Home Counties, or in Italy, or even in Austria (I will NOT under ANY circumstances think of them meeting the evil philanderer Baron Gruner, from the Jeremy Brett Sherlock Holmes . . .)

[kindkit]

*grins* I need to rewatch that episode now that I have a properly developed appreciation for Anthony Valentine.

[mostyn88]

Re Paul/Tim DAAS: do you know they are working together again? Check out their facebook page for 'daas live' - the reunion tour. They are even posting slashy pictures of themselves on it. They do seem to have a wonderful relationship - still lots of love there.

[kindkit]

I didn't know that--that's wonderful! Wonderful enough to make me go to Facebook, which I usually avoid as much as I can.