vid - Closer - meta porn

[kiki_miserychic]

vid title: Closer ("For Jamie")
music: String Quartet Tribute to Nine Inch Nails
source: 9 Songs, Lie With Me, and Shortbus
duration: 3:35
warning: This vid contains full name and female nudity, as well as sexually explicit scenes. You must be over 16 or over the age of consent for your country, whichever is greater, to view this vid.
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Comments

[0mindthegap0]

This was really amazing - once you see the working on the timeline at 1:10, you can just totally see where the point is headed.

What's really interesting too is how much more the girls are getting head. I haven't seen a lot of that basic mainstream het porn on the internet (because, wow, it really is that bad), but am pretty sure it tends to be the other way around. Like arty film porn is more For Us. Which goes right back to the other point. Wow.

[kiki_miserychic]

Thank you.

I debated how soon to bring in the vidding aspect. I wanted to set up the other things before starting the vidding meta.

The women receiving oral sex came about for a couple reasons. Honestly, I think pensises are ugly and the scenes of men getting blowjobs had angles I didn't like, so I didn't want to use them. The scenes of the women were shot more stylistically, which made me want to use them too.

[stultiloquentia]

I am ... so intrigued. And I'm enjoying the comments up above, too.

One thing I find interesting about my own reaction is that I didn't find most of those clips especially arousing or captivating as porn, though they were completely captivating as pieces of your vid narrative/thesis. I'm not exactly an experienced porn watcher, so I trotted over to pornotube to see what else the world has to offer, and yeah, decontextualized sex is boring boring boring. Which makes me think about PWP fanfic, which I like just fine ... but good PWP may not have plot, but it has tons of character ... which is noticeably missing from much commercial stuff. Heh. This may require further research! *jots down titles you clipped for your vid*

The one exception was the clip right at the very end, with the woman bracing up on her arms and looking straight at the camera with a tiny, bedroom-eyed smile. That made me go, "Whoa," and think thinky thoughts about who that woman is in the vid -- some combination of author/performer/character that we all

[kiki_miserychic]

Wow. Thanks for the feedback.

I had hoped that the vid brought out personal reactions and reflections on the subjects and themes. I still don't know the answers to my questions. I realized it's all up to the viewers and producers. I still don't understand porn either. The line is so blurry between porn and art. Add to that I don't have a definition of what porn even is.

Most porn is awful awful awful.

*jots down titles you clipped for your vid*
All three are interesting movies. You would get a whole different reading of the vid too.

YES! I totally wanted the Warrior Woman, as I called her, to have play a large role and ask those questions.

[mikes_grrl]

I'm so glad this isn't locked down. I got here through a rec by a fandom friend, and I'm so glad I did. I've been having a lot of discussions about "What IS porn for women?" on my LJ lately; like you, I'm not sure I understand porn/not-porn. I've taken to calling what most people call "porn" as "Mainstream porn" just so everyone knows what I'm talking about. But I try to explain slash fiction to my husband and he just doesn't consider it porn.

This video was beautiful, and honestly, I was totally unfamiliar with the movies used in it. I will be sure to hunt them down, they look important. Thanks SO much for making this, and posting it! May I link back to this post in a recommendation on my own LJ? If not, okay, but I sure would love for many, many people to see this excellent and thought-provoking vid. ♥

[kiki_miserychic]

I don't understand what porn is any more than I did before I started the vid. Mainstream porn is the best term.

Thanks. There are maybe 3 people in the world who have watched all three movies.

Link away. I'm a whore for recommendations.

[mikes_grrl]

Thank you! I've recced it:
http://mikes-grrl.livejournal.com/102691.html

I do hope to be the fourth who has seen all three. lol! Well it's a goal, anyway...

[j_s_cavalcante]

Truly amazing vid. I've seen at least two of those films. And I love the music choice here.

I don't even have anything vaguely coherent to say about it, except that I think our community needs LOTS more meta on whatever this thing is that we're doing here, with the fic and the art and the vids, and so on. We're making something that hasn't been available to women, at least openly and on this scale, ever before. Something that satisfies what mainstream media are not giving us...because they're really not making it for us. Your vid is fascinating commentary on...well, on both, I think. What mainstream media are making...and what we're remaking out of it. (And I LOVE that the major "vidder" in your vid is male!)

This one will bear some rewatching and lots of thinking about, and I'll definitely rec it as well.

Thanks for sharing it!

[kiki_miserychic]

Cool. I only know of people who've watched one of the movies. It's great to hear someone has watched two. :)

Meta is a deep love of mine. I want to take a bath in it... but it would probably leave me dirty.

Thanks!

[luzula]

Huh, this was very interesting. I have nothing smart to say right now, but it made me think, and I'll definitely be rewatching it.

[kiki_miserychic]

Thanks. :) No thinky thoughts required.