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chocolate_frapp October 22 2008, 16:35:09 UTC
I've always wished Wilson would leave House the fuck alone about the Vicodin; he obviously needs it. (med pot would probably help get rid of his pain too but then he'd be high all the time and couldn't do his job)

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kidsnurse October 22 2008, 16:46:34 UTC
back a hundred years ago when i was in grad school, i actually experimented with pot for pain control. it decreased the spasticity of the leg muscles, but actually increased the pain--or, at least, it increased my perception of the pain. another odd thing--tried it three times, never got high. went back to the opioids, which, at least, were legal. hee.

however, i certainly don't think that house would object to giving it a try! :)

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mickey_p October 22 2008, 17:04:57 UTC
Not surprising...lots of drugs do this. Meperadine given to kidney stone patients, for example. Shoots the pain off the scale. Give them Toredol, they're much better. Given that most of the meds we give for pain don't actually get RID of the pain...rather they alter our perception of it, I'm not surprised that cannibus increased your pain perception. ..does make me wonder if anyone's ever bothered to study it in conjunction with the use of other anti-spasmotics, though. Umm.

Mick

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kidsnurse October 22 2008, 17:12:21 UTC
oh my--you said the bad word--anti-spasmodics. the things that mess with [what's left of] my brain. so, i live with the spasticity instead--and consider it a fair trade-off.

they never discuss house actually having spasms in the leg, but it's an educated assumption i make, based on the known state of the quad, and that there's got to have been further atrophy over the years, and walking with a cane and off-kilter.... anyway, i need him to have leg spasms; they're a mainstay in oh-so-many of my plots! :)

btw--hope you're feeling better.

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chaoskir October 22 2008, 18:18:12 UTC
Oh boy, I didn't have had the time in the last week to watch House and I don't like what I read. Wilson should feel the pain than he judge for himself still not for House. Grrrr.

I feel sorry for you. You shouldn't be in pain. *hugyou*

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kidsnurse October 22 2008, 18:48:53 UTC
i'm going with blackmare_9's theory on this, that house and wilson understand that house is not an addict, and that the term is a convenient [if ill-advised] shorthand.

as to me, well, if i didn't have the pain, then i could not write house the way i do. i'm convinced of this, and i see it as one good thing, a gift that the pain gives me.

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chaoskir October 22 2008, 21:38:33 UTC
I take a bow for you in deeply respect that you think about it in that way. I'm impressed.

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blackmare October 22 2008, 20:46:09 UTC
Great episode last night, if you kinda squint your way through the Thirteen parts. House and Wilson are absolutely wonderful in it; I hope you won't fear to watch. :-)

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etegonemo October 23 2008, 03:36:28 UTC
My personal opinion is that in the pilot and first season the idea of the pain/hidden wound as a metaphor was a really interesting idea to the writers. As part of that the pills were really secondary, not their own moral issue. Suddenly, House does well as a show, and they get a conscience - "Oh no, children may be watching! We have to make sure they know to say no to drugs" and we get an inconsistent takes on pills and House's pain ever since - especially when it can become a nice wedge issue with Wilson. The problem is that the first season established House's leg pain is real, absolutely real, and on the balance he underplays it. Those of us who know House from then know that that is who House is. Yes, I know guys at the drug rehab I worked at whose drug history included a diagnosis of lower back pain and/or bulging discs that they were overplaying, but the problem is that isn't House, it isn't even logical when they fight over vicodin because House won't take anything else because it makes him loopy. Even if they call him an ( ... )

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kidsnurse October 23 2008, 11:23:03 UTC
why can't you write for the show?

word. just... word.

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angelfirenze October 29 2008, 20:56:36 UTC
I agree so very much with kidsnurse and humbly ask to friend and be friended?

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hibernia1 October 28 2008, 20:46:46 UTC
Oh no... It saddens me that the writers make a doctor, of all people, say this, but hey, it's Wilson, he's said it before. There's a difference between addiction (to get high) and dependency (to get rid of pain), people! HOW HARD CAN THAT BE??? I mean, hell, by Wilson's definition even my dearest mother, to name just one of the many examples I can come up with, who had to take fairly large amounts of morphine for her chronic pain was an addict. I DON'T THINK SO, JAMES! Gah. There are times I really don't like House (the show). I adored the little scene you wrote in one of your comments (Wilson and mrs. & mr. Smith). That should be in the show.

This really makes me sad, you know. Sorry for the rant, but I can't stand this sort of 'reasoning'. It's an insult to all chronic-pain-sufferers.

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kidsnurse October 28 2008, 20:57:08 UTC
yeah. i'm with you there. and attitudes like theirs make life even harder on the under-65 crowd.

right now, for me, the whole issue is just too depressing to think about.

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hibernia1 October 28 2008, 21:05:00 UTC
attitudes like theirs make life even harder on the under-65 crowd Yes, absolutely. Because under 65, you have to be HEALTHY & NORMAL!!! OR ELSE!!! No. This really makes me sad, I wasn't just saying that, really truly sad. And I adored this show so much as first.

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angelfirenze October 29 2008, 20:53:30 UTC
*sighs* You know I've pretty much given up on the writers regarding character growth and continuity, but...that kiss last night between House and Cuddy? I'd thought I'd been rendered a noromo, but apparently hope springs eternal. But, really, that pesky habit of hope is fed not only by Foreman pulling himself out of the mud, but the brief glimpses of Cameron proving to be absolutely fantastic and MUCH IMPROVED over the overwrought annoyance we knew in the past.

So...share in my hope for a little longer?

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